Hi Jonah
You haven't explained why Modisco or Parsley were disabled or why there
was no discussion prior to such a widespread unnecessary disabling.
Yes the disabling has eventually been reverted, but unfortunately there
was an 8 hour delay between the Gerrit that reverted and the actual
merge. IMHO until the merge occurs, there was no reversion.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 08/01/2022 15:33, Jonah Graham wrote:
Hi Eike,
Actually CDO does depend on Mylyn, and therefore (until 2021-12) on CVS:
EMF CDO depends on EMF Compare's contribution:
org.eclipse.emf.cdo.compare -> org.eclipse.emf.compare
EMF Compare depends on EGit's contribution:
org.eclipse.emf.compare.egit -> org.eclipse.jgit
EGit depends on Mylyn's contribution:
org.eclipse.mylyn.github.feature.feature.group
-> org.eclipse.mylyn_feature.feature.group
(Note that despite the name
org.eclipse.mylyn.github.feature.feature.group is contributed by EGit
to simrel)
The difference is the granularity of the dependencies. For
SimRel dependencies are normally handled at the contribution level. At
the feature/bundle level there may indeed be no dependencies from CDO
-> Mylyn/CVS, but with many contributions being interdependent on each
other, and Mylyn historically cutting across so many projects,
something that disabled Mylyn causes many things to be easily disabled.
Of course this problem is hindered by Mylyn being under-resourced at
the moment.
I hope that helps,
Jonah
~~~
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 10:01, Eike Stepper <step...@esc-net.de> wrote:
Thanks for your explanation. But, for the record, CDO does not
dpened, neither directly nor transitively on anything from Mylyn
or from CVS.
Cheers
/Eike
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Am 08.01.2022 um 15:35 schrieb Kit Lo:
Eike / Ed W. / Lorenzo / Team,
Let me clarify. While contributing Eclipse Project M1 to SimRel
2022-03 M1, SimRel Aggregator Validation found many dependency
issues "directly" or "indirectly" related to the removal of CVS
in Eclipse Project. Mylyn was the first offender. After disabling
Mylyn, all the other downstream projects also needed to be
disabled because they were "directly" or "indirectly" affected by
the removal of CVS and/or Mylyn.
Thanks to Jonah's analysis, most/all of the downstream projects
were affected by Mylyn. Once Mylyn fixed their CVS dependency,
Jonah was able to enable most/all the other downstream projects.
Sorry for the inconvenience and the alarm caused by the change!
Regards,
Kit Lo
Eclipse Babel Project Lead
IBM Eclipse SDK (IES) Technical Lead and Release Manager
Inactive hide details for "Lorenzo Bettini" ---01/08/2022
05:56:28 AM---Same for EMF Parsley: how did you find the CVS
dependen"Lorenzo Bettini" ---01/08/2022 05:56:28 AM---Same for
EMF Parsley: how did you find the CVS dependency? Il Sab 8 Gen
2022, 07:16 Ed Willink <ed.w
From: "Lorenzo Bettini" <lorenzo.bett...@gmail.com>
<mailto:lorenzo.bett...@gmail.com>
To: "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
<mailto:cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
Date: 01/08/2022 05:56 AM
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] CVS support plugin
discontinuation - SimRel build changes needed
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Same for EMF Parsley: how did you find the CVS dependency?
Il Sab 8 Gen 2022, 07:16 Ed Willink <_ed.willink@gmail.com_
<mailto:ed.will...@gmail.com>> ha scritto:
Hi
Ditto for Modisco. My OOMPH generated Modisco installation is
totally free of even transitive dependencies on CVS so there
must be a fault in your dependency analysis.
Surely such a dramatic disabling should have been
investigated on the Gerrit / a prvate branch and then
discussed? Why was it merged to master? Why has it not yet
been reverted?
Regards
Ed Willink
On 08/01/2022 05:25, Eike Stepper wrote:
@Jonah Thanks for re-enabling CDO!
@Kit How did you establish that CDO depends (possibly
transitively) on CVS? The bundle manifests of CDO do not
contain anything to that extent, and in my target
platform for CDO there are no CVS bundles.
Cheers
/Eike
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Am 07.01.2022 um 23:21 schrieb Jonah Graham:
Hi folks,
I have reenabled all the projects as the failures
were due to transitive dependencies on Mylyn. For
Mylyn I have disabled the CVS related/dependent
features only. AFAICT (validation passes, waiting for
full build) this should be the full solution so none
of the other projects need to do anything this time.
See
_https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/189399_
<https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/189399>
Jonah
~~~
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 17:11, Jonah Graham
<_jonah@kichwacoders.com_
<mailto:jo...@kichwacoders.com>> wrote:
Thanks Kit!
It looks like we have quite a few dependencies to
resolve here :-) CDT doesn't directly depend on
CVS, perhaps there is a transient dependency that
does though.
Does anyone know which of these directly depend
on CVS? I am trying to figure it out now and hope
to make a new contribution soon if possible with
a smaller set of disabled projects by removing
individual features.
PS Thank you for making such a large change in M1
- it gives all the downstream consumers more time
to actually understand the implication of the
earlier announced changes.
Jonah
~~~
Jonah Graham
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 16:54, Kit Lo
<_ki...@us.ibm.com_ <mailto:ki...@us.ibm.com>>
wrote:
As announced in
_https://www.eclipse.org/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg18643.html_
<https://www.eclipse.org/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg18643.html> Eclipse
Platform project has stopped building CVS.
While contributing to SimRel 2022-03 M1 we
found some projects are dependent on CVS
causing SimRel build to fail. To make SimRel
work we ended up disabling multiple projects.
Please re-enable them once the support for
CVS has been disabled. Here is the list of
projects that were disabled:
- cdt
- dltk
- egit
- embedcdt
- emf-cdo
- emf-compare
- emf-parsley
- linuxtools
- m2m-atl
- modisco
- mylyn
- oomph
- pdt
- ptp
- tcf
- tracecompass
Thank you!
Regards,
Kit Lo
Eclipse Babel Project Lead
IBM Eclipse SDK (IES) Technical Lead and
Release Manager
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