On Thu., Jan. 13, 2022, 08:18 Aleksandar Kurtakov, <akurt...@redhat.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:11 PM Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu., Jan. 13, 2022, 05:49 Alexander Fedorov, <
>> alexander.fedo...@arsysop.ru> wrote:
>>
>>> > Orbit essentially is like Maven Central
>>>
>>> In that case I don't understand why do we need Orbit at all. With the
>>> latest announcements regarding tycho capabilities from Christoph + lack of
>>> resources to support Orbit in safe form it seems to be useless.
>>>
>>
>> You have hit the nail on the head! Although useless is going a little
>> far. Orbit does not likely have a long term future. However as there are
>> many projects that build from it still we need it. Also there is a problem
>> if multiple projects start contributing the same version of third party lib
>> that will hopefully be solved in the future with PGP signing.
>>
>> Orbit should not be directly contributing to simrel, but for a variety of
>> reasons it does (see comments in the file)
>>
>> As mentioned in the Gerrit, passage's p2 repo should be publishing its
>> third party deps and it should be possible for consumers to install passage
>> from passage's p2 repo without requiring an orbit repo be added too.
>>
>> I know for sure that numerous projects are not quite doing that (again
>> see comments in orbit.aggrcon) but hopefully at some point the temporary
>> contribution of orbit to simrel directly can be removed.
>>
>
> I would dare to say that as long as the workarounds are in simrel nothing
> will get fixed - it's time to face reality.
>

Probably correct, but I don't have the nerve to disable (or knowledge/time
to fix) Mylyn.


>
>>
>> HTH,
>> Jonah
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> AF
>>>
>>> 1/13/2022 1:29 PM, Gunnar Wagenknecht пишет:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2022, at 10:55, Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurt...@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> IMHO, people should actively remove content from Orbit that has CVEs.
>>> Much like with any other project. Even without replacing it with a fixed
>>> version. We will be better with less but trusted content than questioning
>>> ourselves for each artifact.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed. There is usually a clean-up/removal of unneeded stuff. But the
>>> downloads are still available for projects consuming the repositories.
>>>
>>> >[...] That is definitely something
>>>> > new, since Orbit was a trusted source of 3rd party libraries for many
>>>>
>>>> > years.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's a misconception. Orbit essentially is like Maven Central. Instead
>>> of Maven Artifacts it distributes Eclipse plug-in artifacts. Maven Central
>>> still distributes the vulnerable Log4j version and ton of other libraries
>>> with CVEs. Does that make it a less trustworthy source now? I don't think
>>> so. Consumers still need to stay on top of those.
>>>
>>> -Gunnar
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gunnar Wagenknecht
>>> gun...@wagenknecht.org, http://guw.io/
>>>
>>>
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