Hi Christian / Ed / Ed / other Orbit consumers,

> @Jonah does this mean i deed to use 10 repos to get the sum of my orbit
deps?

No, it means if you rely on the old CVS defined orbit bundles you now need
to make that reference explicit in your target file (i.e to R20201118194144
+ S20220403232146 for M1) as the Orbit project is not maintaining the old
CVS defined bundles anymore.

Using the CVS defined orbit is a risk for the project (and up to the
project to decide how much of a risk that is). We no longer have the
sources or build machine of the CVS defined bundles and have for the last
few years been patching the repo*. Because we don't have a way to build
those old bundles everytime a modification needed to be made it was a lot
of manual crafting of p2 repos and modifying metadata.

Here is a concrete example. Orbit's upcoming releases do not want to
recommend org.apache.log4j 1.2.15 anymore (due to CVEs). That bundle
version is not in S20220403232146, but its replacement is (1.2.19) and no
one wants to make another derivative of R20201118194144 that has it
excluded.

As for specific dependencies identified in this thread:

>org.antlr.runtime/3.2.0.v201101311130
That version is available in R20201118194144 and newer versions (3.5.2, and
numerous 4.x versions) will be in the recommended 2022-06 release.

>JUnit 4.12
Also in R20201118194144 and newer versions (4.13.2 and 5.x) will be in the
recommended 2022-06 release.

> com.google.gson 2.8.9
This is in the 2022-06 M1, so not sure what the issue is here.

> javax.inject
Available in R20201118194144. As of now no one has added jakarta.inject
(the new name for this bundle) to Orbit's git as an EBR. The whole javax ->
jakarta transition has lots of its own problems that so far are being
handled piecemeal (and is part of why Mylyn stopped working and has been
removed from SimRel).

> commons.lang
Available in R20201118194144. As of now no one has added it to Orbit's git
as an EBR.

> should we create a bugzilla?
There is one - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=568936

I hope that clarifies things. Please ask follow-ups.
Jonah


* https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/R20160520211859/
was the last recommended build from CVS,
https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/R20201118194144/
is the many times patched version of that.




~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders
www.kichwacoders.com


On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 01:03, Christian Dietrich <
christian.dietr...@itemis.de> wrote:

> @Jonah does this mean i deed to use 10 repos to get the sum of my orbit
> deps?
>
> i am getting
>
> Error: Failed to resolve target definition
> /home/runner/work/xtext-reference-projects/xtext-reference-projects/integrationtests/org.eclipse.xtext.integrationtests.target/org.eclipse.xtext.integrationtests.target.target:
> Could not find "org.antlr.runtime/3.2.0.v201101311130" in the repositories
> of the current location
>
> is that intentional?
> Am 04.04.22 um 01:57 schrieb Jonah Graham:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I am distributing this wider than normal because of the larger impact of
> this change. See details below in the quoted emails.
>
> Following the build process on the wiki[0] I'm declaring S20220403232146
> [1,2] as our contribution for SimRel 2022-06 M1 [3].
>
> *Reminder: *As of 2022-06 this is no longer a composite repo. The final
> CVS defined bundles are available in R20201118194144[4]. If you need these
> old bundles I highly recommend you add recipes to orbit[5] or change to
> other options like the new Maven in PDE option[6]. We don't really have a
> way to rebuild these old bundles therefore having your project depend on
> them is a risk in your project.
>
> The following changes are new for 2022-06 M1 since  2022-03 R (sorry for
> the noisy commits on build scripts - these changes used to be hidden in
> configuration changes on Jenkins, but I migrated all the build scripts to
> git):
>
> 4322974 Bug 569078: GMF Runtime have fixed their SimRel contribution
> (fixup)
> fe394e5 Merge "Bug 569078: GMF Runtime have fixed their SimRel
> contribution"
> 467effd Bug 568936: Automatically set name/description of build
> 0ea4906 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> 43f6ea5 Bug 569078: GMF Runtime have fixed their SimRel contribution
> 05613db Bug 568936: Add description to main build process
> 6fe3fb2 Bug 568936: Add description to main build process
> *76a5833 Bug 568936: Add org.apache.xml.resolver recipe *<-- highlighted
> because this is the *only* bundle change for 2022-06 M1 vs 2022-03 R
> e638e8e Bug 568936: Remove CVS bundles from mirroring and output
> bccd811 Bug 568936: Fix name of Jenkinsfile
> 7569a3d Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> 09458b8 Bug 568936: The timestamp should be ms since 1970
> c3e0f5e Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> 9502f26 Bug 568936: Composite handling + always promote build
> 119c3f1 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> 74eb7d7 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> 556e608 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> 1fb1ece Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> 19fce78 Bug 568936: Fix typos/syntax error in build scripts
> ed3f604 Bug 568936: Remove CVS sourced bundles from Orbit
> e355dbf Bug 568936: Move Jenkinsfile and used scripts into source control
> 105e5c4 Bug 569078: Make a limited version of bundles from Orbit for
> SimRel (fixup)
> b544c64 Bug 569078: Make a limited version of bundles from Orbit for SimRel
> 37f3210 Build against Eclipse 4.23
> 8d3e517 Update reference repository to 2022-03 R release
>
> As for the comparing repos - Roland has provided me details which I added
> to the Wiki[0] - but it is non trivial for me to run at the moment. Please
> let me know if you are able to help out by providing that info.
>
> [0]
> https://wiki.eclipse.org/Orbit/Promotion,_Release,_and_Retention_Policies#Milestone_Release_Process
> [1]
> https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/S20220403232146/repository/
>  <--
> this release
> [2] https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/2022-06/
> [3] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:SimRel-2022-06
> [4]
> https://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/R20201118194144/
> <-- old CVS repo!
> [5] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Orbit/Adding_Bundles_To_Orbit_In_5_Minutes
> [6] I'm not sure what the best link for this is - but Eclipse Platform
> does it here
> https://github.com/eclipse-platform/eclipse.platform.releng.aggregator/blob/7aa6ff4ba08601f8e5152a95d29b248e490f5fe8/eclipse.platform.releng.prereqs.sdk/eclipse-sdk-prereqs.target#L239
>
> Thanks,
> Jonah
>
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders
> www.kichwacoders.com
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 22:32, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> Starting with 2022-06 M1 the Orbit repo will no longer be a composite
>> repo combining the old CVS build with the latest git based build.
>>
>> The 2022-03 recommended build will be the last to contain these old CVS
>> bundles.
>>
>> Please comment on the bug if this causes you any concerns, or would like
>> to voice your support.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jonah
>>
>> ~~~
>> Jonah Graham
>> Kichwa Coders
>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: <bugzilla-dae...@eclipse.org>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 22:29
>> Subject: [Bug 568936] Remove remaining CVS defined bundles from Orbit
>> recommended builds starting in 2022-06
>> To: <jo...@kichwacoders.com>
>>
>>
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=568936
>> Product/Component: Orbit / bundles
>>
>>
>> Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> changed:
>>
>>            What    |Removed                     |Added
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>             Summary|Move remaining CVS defined  |Remove remaining CVS
>>                    |bundles to git              |defined bundles from
>> Orbit
>>                    |                            |recommended builds
>> starting
>>                    |                            |in 2022-06
>>    Target Milestone|---                         |2022-06
>>
>> --- Comment #7 from Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> ---
>> After discussing with various stakeholders, including at the Planning
>> Council[1] the current plan is to instead of migrating all these bundles
>> is to
>> just deprecate the CVS versions.
>>
>> Projects consuming the CVS versions of the bundles can point to the last
>> release containing them (will be 2022-03 recommended build*) and/or
>> update the
>> git repo to include them, or better yet consume directly from Maven
>> Central.
>>
>> Therefore the plan is from 2022-06 M1 the CVS component of this Orbit
>> repo will
>> be dropped.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/2022-02-02
>> * please recall that "R" builds in Orbit means recommend, not release.
>>
>> --
>> You are receiving this mail because:
>> You are the assignee for the bug.
>> You reported the bug.
>> You are on the CC list for the bug.
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cross-project-issues-dev mailing listcross-project-issues-...@eclipse.org
> To unsubscribe from this list, visit 
> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
>
>
> Vorstand/Board: Jens Wagener (Vors./chairman), Dr. Stephan Eberle,
> Abdelghani El-Kacimi, Wolfgang Neuhaus, Franz-Josef Schuermann
> Aufsichtsrat/Supervisory Board: Michael Neuhaus (Vors./chairman), Harald
> Goertz, Eric Swehla
> Sitz der Gesellschaft/Registered Office: Am Brambusch 15-24, 44536 Lünen
> (Germany)
> Registergericht/Registry Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund | HRB 20621
> _______________________________________________
> cross-project-issues-dev mailing list
> cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
> To unsubscribe from this list, visit
> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev
>
_______________________________________________
cross-project-issues-dev mailing list
cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org
To unsubscribe from this list, visit 
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Reply via email to