Hello,
Great discussion.
> Removal in January 2022 for upcoming 4.23, 2 major releases later
> Breakage found January 2023 on 4.26, 3 major releases later
Formally, the 4.x releases on the page
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse are all marked as "Minor
Release".
How did they become "major"? If they are "major" without incrementing
"major" segment, then who are "minor"? What about PDE API tools?
Regards,
AF
1/3/2023 5:45 PM, Andrey Loskutov пишет:
Ed,
you still can use CVS plugins with 4.25 platform.
For the rest: there is no "free beer" anymore in platform.
"Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих".
If you (or anyone else) want / need CVS (or XYZ) being supported by
platform, please consider to contribute to the CVS (XYZ) plugin
maintenance.
Eclipse platform is open source project and everyone can spend time or
money to improve on some aspect of it.
But one can't expect from the platform project to support
every released piece of software "for free" forever.
Kind regards,
Andrey Loskutov
Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих
https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov
*Gesendet:* Dienstag, 03. Januar 2023 um 15:32 Uhr
*Von:* "Ed Willink" <e...@willink.me.uk>
*An:* "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>
*Betreff:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] CVS support plugin
discontinuation - SimRel build changes needed
Hi
4.21 to 4.23 is two minor releases and only six months; nothing in
terms of a transition period.
It takes a change to 6.x to be two major releases.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 03/01/2023 14:24, Mickael Istria wrote:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 3:12 PM Ed Willink <ed.will...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I thought that Open Source was friendly; not a facilitator for a
proprietary business case.
Well, sometimes allowing contributors to make money from their
work is actually one way to try being friendly.
But indeed, if one wants to do that work for free, that's even
friendlier.
My understanding of the disciplined deprecation was that two major
releases were required after an announcement, but since e6 is
impossibly
distant the platform has taken to breakage in minor versions.
Nonetheless I would expect two releases on the yearly cadence so
breakage within 18 months seems very wrong and to merit a
regression fix.
Deprecation announced in September 2021 (4.21)
Removal in January 2022 for upcoming 4.23, 2 major releases later
Breakage found January 2023 on 4.26, 3 major releases later
The cadence is described at
https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/eclipse
Ultimately, there is a clear law of software development:
unmaintained software that no-one builds or updates against newer
version of its dependencies will die; only software that someone
maintains actively survives. It's not a matter of process here,
but a matter of interest in maintaining it. If some money can be
found to boost interest from someone in maintaining here, then we
all win.
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