Note: I've though about asking for just such a backup
cvs dir/branch before, perhapse it would be a good
idea? 

--- Mitch Obrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For all other maps sans mlab I follow the map guide.
> However mlab was started way before these, thus it
> uses the flatdirectory structure so it stays
> working.
> I've seen maps break many times before, including my
> tavern when it was uploaded to cvs originally.
> 
> Why must there be contoversy just over a file
> system? 
> 
> If I can't upload my maps to CVS where do I back
> them
> up to? Are they that worthless? I do a fair amount
> of
> CF work in arches and non-mlab maps, could I have
> alittle slack? Why is there opposistion just because
> I
> put the maps in their own flatlevel dir?
> 
> The reasoning that mlab doesn't even deserve to be
> in
> CVS is very alienating, I've worked years on theses
> maps. I work nearly constantly on maps for CF.
> 
> Mlab could be intergrated into CF-proper right now
> if
> I was just given the OK. If an exception to the dir
> rule was made.
> 
> I though after being involved in CF this long the
> controversy was over and I could develop as a
> regular
> without asking about every change. I uploaded mlab
> so
> it would be with CF, so if my computers go down my
> years of work are not lost. Sure one can say "go
> find
> some other place to back up to" but... that's
> basically telling the person to screw off; their
> work
> is of little value.
> 
> The tar is uploaded so it itself is not lost, it is
> only 5 megs.
> 
> --- Alex Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Mark Wedel wrote:
> > 
> > > The mlab maps obviously do not fall into that
> case
> > - they are clearly 
> > > being actively developed, and the person doing
> so
> > has CVS.
> > >
> > >  One problem that arises from this is that there
> > really isn't any way 
> > > for anyone to integrate the mlab maps - your
> > trying to integrate a 
> > > moving target.
> > >
> > >  The other is that this really just seems to be
> a
> > way to avoid the 
> > > mapguide - I know Mike doesn't want to follow
> our
> > map directory layout 
> > > or some other areas of the mapguide.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > >  But then I'm still stuck figuring out what is
> > going to happen with 
> > > all this mlab stuff - either the correct rules
> > should be followed and 
> > > this integrated in properly with the maps, or it
> > probably shouldn't be 
> > > there.
> > 
> > In terms of integrating a moving target, I don't
> see
> > how it would be any 
> > better if they weren't in CVS. Really, the target
> is
> > still moving if one 
> > was trying to work from Mike's periodic mlab
> release
> > tarballs, so though 
> > it being in CVS doesn't solve the moving target
> > problem, it does allow 
> > the movement of the target to be tracked better
> > which IMHO is somewhat 
> > helpful to the moving target situation, even if
> only
> > slightly.
> > In terms of mapguide issues, I agree, though if
> Mike
> > is too unwilling to 
> > change, it may be possible to fix many of the
> > mapguide issues by script 
> > (i.e. the directory layout could be autogenerated
> > from the map name 
> > prefixes that Mike is using), however chances are
> > this would break from 
> > time to time, so I don't see this as too appealing
> > an option unless Mike 
> > is willing to adopt such fixes for the development
> > of mlab. I know one 
> > of Mike's worries with changing his current layout
> > is that scripts could 
> > possibly end up creating small errors and
> breakage.
> > Question to Mike: What exactly in the mapguide are
> > you opposed to? And 
> > why exactly?
> > 
> > Alex Schultz
> > 
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