Hi Mikhail,
Does this mean we will drop the service mode on desktop? If true, I'm
not sure how will some future APIs(like task scheduler, backgroun sync,
notification) be implemented without a system daemon manages these apps.
Also I think installation/uninstallation can make app ownership clearer.
For example, when we uninstall an app, its working data(like cookies,
local storage, scheduled tasks, sync) will be deleted too. Without
uninstallation if we removed a package file, we still need work out new
policy to retire its working data.
Regards,
Xiang
On 2014年09月04日 18:32, Pozdnyakov, Mikhail wrote:
I do not see any benefit in having more than one package manager on the system.
There will be no installation on desktop, as for the permanent data it should
be stored somewhere in crosswalk config,
(~/.config/xwalk/the_app_specific_path).
BR,
Mikhail
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From: Tomasz Iwanek [t.iwa...@samsung.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:57 AM
To: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail; crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org
Subject: RE: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user experience on
desktop
Nevertheless, some application/technologies have their own packaging
conventions independently from systems platform packager (e.g. for python,
it is usually better to follow installation by pip/easy_install than trying
to create rpm/dpkg from python egg).
About implementation.
As I understand, there will be still installation of application / launching
part of code for desktop (directories:
xwalk/applications/common/{.,installer}).
But it will be used for temporary installation and will be referenced inside
xwalk, right? Or do you want to separate installation for desktop/tizen?
What features installation for desktop should not support?
If applications is never installed (beside temporary installation) for
desktop, will it be able to use w3c file API or any API that stores results
between
several application launches?
Regards,
Tomasz Iwanek
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From: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail [mailto:mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 10:27 AM
To: Tomasz Iwanek; crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org
Subject: RE: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user experience on
desktop
Hello Tomasz,
thanks for your questions and proposals.
1. So far we can distinguish by the given file extension, but it might make
sense to add such options in future.
2. I think home-brewed application management is useless because the
platform application management (and packaging) should be used.
what I generally want is
1) just to simplify Crosswalk UX on desktop so that the User can easily
launch an .xpk (.wgt) files there, no platform specific configuration added
so far (pls note that we do not support officially any of desktop platforms)
2) to encapsulate tizen-specific business logic
BR,
Mikhail
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From: Tomasz Iwanek [t.iwa...@samsung.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:29 AM
To: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail; crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org
Subject: RE: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user experience on
desktop
Hello,
1. What do you think about options "--xpk ${xpk}" and "--conf ${json}" (like
option "--jar" in java for packaged applications)?
2. Is application management that useless for desktop build? Id is id. Maybe
desktop installation should integrate somehow with desktop environment on
host, like
- creating wrapper script for applications which run xwalk-launcher with
right id (for user: it is some executable, just run it),
- create configuration files for application to be run from icon on
desktop.
Just ideas.
Regards,
Tomasz Iwanek
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From: Crosswalk-dev
[mailto:crosswalk-dev-boun...@lists.crosswalk-project.org] On Behalf Of
Pozdnyakov, Mikhail
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:30 AM
To: crosswalk-dev@lists.crosswalk-project.org
Subject: [Crosswalk-dev] [Intent to implement] Better user experience on
desktop
Hi there,
At the moment the Crosswalk desktop user should do the following steps to
run an xwalk application (.xpk or .wgt)
1) "install" it using xwalkctl (means recording it application storage)
2) obtain the generated app_id
3) finally run the app via id
Apparently this logic was designed for Tizen where Crosswalk is used as the
platform web-runtime.
This scenario however looks really weird on desktop as it contains
home-brewed application management (which is apart from the platform
application management on desktop) and forces the User to be aware of some
generated app id.
I propose us to drop this scenario on desktop and support the following
scenarios there:
1) Run arbitrary URL (this is already done) -> xwalk http://someurl.com
2) Run the unpacked application -> xwalk local/path/to/manifest.json At the
moment Crosswalk can run the unpacked app from the path to *the directory
containing manifest.json* I propose to use instead path to the manifest
file.
3) Run packed application -> xwalk path/to/my_app.xpk This is not supported
now. Crosswalk could unpack the app to a temporary directory and erase it
after the execution.
Doing this also allows us to move all the application storage & application
management code to 'tizen' folder and remove the unnecessary abstraction
code.
This should significantly simplify our code in 'application' folder.
BR,
Mikhail
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