On 3/27/13 10:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> No - I'm saying to embed them.  Let me explain.
Right, this is what I understood.
>
> We've created a system that consolidates all the docs into a consistent place 
> and breaks them into manageable parts.  We're maintaining all of the docs in 
> that way.  That seems like a very good thing to me.
I would argue how manageable they are (much more so in development 
mode). They are manageable in a directory listing kinda way but not in 
an informational sense. I have nothing against including the development 
docs on the same manner and only displaying them when in development 
mode but we definitely need to add some UI work to it (more on this below).

Also, I think that the idea of separating the docs into distinct user 
oriented groups/books is the right way to go. Currently the information 
seems well spread over a large number of pages in an incoherent manner. 
The info itself is for the most part very good but trying to find 
specific information by the group/section naming and page naming is very 
hard.
> We've create a way to export all of the docs into single books to be used 
> outside of the UI and github.  That seems like a very good thing to me.
We still need to work on the structure and markup of every book but I 
completely agree with this. The current implementation only allows you 
to "export" the current page and the "export" function is really just a 
css switch to make the page more printable. I would argue that we need 
to take step further and offer the entire book as PDF download instead 
of the current system.
> We've got a way to link content sections back to github so readers can easily 
> find where to make corrections.  That also seems like a good thing.
The current system of showing a long string with the source of the page 
is distracting. I see the point of showing the source but we should 
probably think of another way of displaying this information in a way 
that is informational but not so visually distracting. Also, some 
explanation and details for contribution, style and structure would be 
needed.
> Since we've got all the content in the UI, I don't see why we should omit a 
> link to it.  Filtering it out is more effort.
I agree that in development mode there can/should be links to the 
developer docs. Other things to think about would be a simple style 
guide to keep the various pages in-line as to numbering, etc. Having 
looked through all the docs I think they all need a lot of work 
improving markup and structure and I wonder how we can improve them all 
in a consistent manner.

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Kenneth Wimer

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Wimer [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:58 PM
> To: Hirschfeld, Rob
> Cc: [email protected]; crowbar
> Subject: Re: [Crowbar] System Documentation UI
>
> On 3/27/13 7:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Where would you see the developer docs link?
> Typically, I would expect the developer docs to be on the wiki in github. I 
> have nothing against showing them in the System Documentation in development 
> mode but a) it seems like the last place I would look for such information 
> and b) when the crowbar ui is broken (and therefor needs development) the 
> docs are also down.
>
> To reiterate, I would leave the user-based docs in the git repo directly and 
> put the developer docs on the github wiki. Just my two cents :-)
>
> --
> Kenneth Wimer
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: crowbar-bounces On Behalf Of Kenneth Wimer
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:49 AM
>> To: James Tan
>> Cc: crowbar
>> Subject: Re: [Crowbar] System Documentation UI
>>
>> On 3/27/13 3:49 PM, James Tan wrote:
>>> On 03/27/2013 03:02 PM, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
>>>> I noticed the typos already and fixed them in the SVG file. BTW, I
>>>> made all of this with inkscape so if someone is interested in the
>>>> source files I'll put them in the repo as well.
>>> Sweet. Yes why not just push the .svg in - I think most modern
>>> browsers can render that directly?
>> Most browsers can do svg but not inkscape svg. I have each wireframe on a 
>> different layer and the notes for each again on a different layer. I imagine 
>> it will look pretty messed up in a browser.
>>
>> I am about to push the corrections to the images and the source svg.
>>
>> --
>> Kenneth Wimer
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