Thank you, you almost convinced me - but I still decline :) You're perfect for the job, just take it and let's get this project graduated ;-)
Regards, Matthias On Friday, 2013-02-01, Josh Wills wrote: > So my reason for nominating Matthias as the PMC chair was based on two > things. First, I felt that he deserved it and would do a better job of it > than anyone else. Second, and I'm sure I'm going to embarrass him a little > bit by saying this, but I feel that he represents all that is awesome about > the ASF: someone who joins a community around code, make substantial > contributions, and achieve a leadership position in the community through > merit. That is the ASF at its best, and that is exactly what I wanted the > Crunch community to become when we first took the project to the incubator. > > At the end of the day, the PMC chair is largely a symbolic thing: the > overall direction for the project is driven by the consensus of the PMC > members. Given that it's symbolic, I think that we should choose someone > who symbolizes the kind of community we aspire to be, and to me, that's > Matthias. That's my argument. > > Matthias, I would really like you to accept the chair. That said, if my > argument didn't sway you and you still want to decline, I will take it, if > only so that we can kick off the graduation resolution vote in a timely > fashion. ;-) > > J > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Josh Wills <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Gabriel Reid > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Matthias Friedrich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > On Thursday, 2013-01-31, Josh Wills wrote: > >> > > I was planning on using the graduation charter for Apache Flex as a > >> > > baseline for our own vote: > >> > > > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ps3rjgv76vlw4sh5 > >> > > > >> > > My thought was to include all current committers as the initial > >> members. > >> > > >> > Sounds good to me. > >> > > >> > >> FWIW, this looks good to me too. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > For the VP/PMC chair role, I was going to nominate Matthias. I am > >> firmly > >> > of > >> > > the opinion that he did more of the important-but-not-fun work that > >> was > >> > > required to turn Crunch into a real Apache project, and I felt like > >> the > >> > > honor of the first VP of Crunch as a TLP should go to him. > >> > > > >> > > With that said, Matthias, I don't want to impose any additional work > >> on > >> > you > >> > > that you wouldn't be up for, so if you would like to decline, I would > >> > > certainly understand. > >> > > >> > I'm flattered, thank you, but I have to decline. It's not about the time > >> > or additional work - I'm definitely willing to help out in > >> organizational > >> > things like graduation or reporting duties, no matter who becomes PMC > >> > chair. However, I think there's a candidate who's much better suited. > >> > > >> > I'm not sure how the nomination/election process works here, or if there > >> > is one, but I'd like to nominate you, Josh. Crunch is your baby, you > >> have > >> > spent more time on it than anybody else - not just coding, but even more > >> > imporantly in building a community. You are always willing to discuss > >> > things, you stay polite even when you disagree and you make compromises > >> > when the majority of the team wants to take a different road. That's > >> > worth a lot, so I think you would be the perfect candidate. > >> > > >> > >> Well, when Josh nominated you (Matthias) for the role, I felt that it was > >> certainly > >> by far the most logical decision, as it feels like you're made to do the > >> job. > >> > >> However, it appears that among your many skills, you're also very good at > >> making a case for Josh to be the PMC Chain :-) > >> > > > > Seriously. That was a really nice thing to say, Matthias-- thank you. I > > hope you all know how much I enjoy working on this stuff with you. It is > > the part of my work life that I enjoy the most. > > > > I'm concerned about getting into one of those comical and cliched "you > > take it, no you take it, no you take it" situations, and I just arrived > > back in SF from a long week of travel. I'm going to sleep on it and see if > > I can come up with a good counterargument. :-) > > > > > > > >> > >> I personally feel that either you or Josh would be great for the role, and > >> that's > >> based on all the points that both of you have made about why the other one > >> would be great for the job. As far as I'm concerned, it does need to be > >> one > >> of > >> the two of you, but I'm fine with either one. > >> > >> - Gabriel > >> > > > >
