At 3:27 PM -0400 6/6/2000, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steven 
>M. Bellovi
>n" writes:
>>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dennis 
>>Glatting writes:
>>
>
> >>>
> >>
>>>There is an article (somewhere) on the net of digital cameras focused
>>>on lava lamps. Photos are taken of the lava lamps and mixed into a
>>>hash function to generate random data. I believe the author had some
>>>algorithm for turning the lamps on and off, too.
>>>
>>See lavarand.sgi.com.
>>
>
> >I had thought it was patented, but a quick search of uspto.gov didn't
>>turn it up.
>
>Following up on my own post...  My brain clearly wasn't in gear when I
>did my previous search.  It's U.S. patent 5,732,138; see
>http://patents.uspto.gov/cgi-bin/ifetch4?ENG+PATBIB-ALL+0+988124+0+6+ 
>31831+OF+1+1+1+PN%2f5%2c732%2c138
>
>
>               --Steve Bellovin

The patent appears much broader than just focusing a camera on a Lava 
lamp. They claim digitizing the state of any chaotic system and then 
hashing it to seed a PRNG. The Lava lamp is given as a specific 
example (claim 3).

Arnold Reinhold


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