On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 01:44:14PM +0000, Ben Laurie wrote: > Ed Gerck wrote: > > Paul, > > > > Usability should by now be recognized as the key issue for security - > > namely, if users can't use it, it doesn't actually work. > > > > And what I heard in the story is that even savvy users such as Phil Z > > (who'd have no problem with key management) don't use it often. > > > > BTW, just to show that usability is king, could you please send me an > > encrypted email -- I even let you choose any secure method that you want. > > Sure I can, but if you want it to be encrypted to you, then you need to > publish a key.
More strongly, if we've never met, and you are not in the habit of routinely signing email, thereby tying a key to your e-persona, it makes no sense to speak of *secure* communication to *you*. Which "you" would that be, the one who sent me all those exciting zip files of W32 executables, or the one I think is posting to this list? The only identity you (who hypothetically do not garnish each message with a signature) have is your mailbox. I can bootstrap that (with questionable initial security) to a key via a "private" unencrypted email message, and over a time as the key is consistently used grow to associate the key with an on-line persona. Is such a virtual persona what most people look for in "secure" email? I think not, rather I think they are looking for secure email for the eyes of real-world people, and so, in a strong sense ubiquitous secure mail for the digital world in unattainable, because the underlying human relationships do not exist. The world of digital relationships is much broader than the world of personal real-world relationships... I think that key management (while quite difficult) is not even the real problem, the more intractable problem appears to be trust management: how to distinguish a con from the real-thing... This problem is also applicable to the real-world, but the digital manifestation is more severe. -- /"\ ASCII RIBBON NOTICE: If received in error, \ / CAMPAIGN Victor Duchovni please destroy and notify X AGAINST IT Security, sender. Sender does not waive / \ HTML MAIL Morgan Stanley confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]