On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:31:21PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

> I just stumbled on a web site that strongly believes in crypto --
> *everything* on the site is protected by https.  If you go there via
> http, you receive a Redirect.  The site?  www.cia.gov:
> 
> $ telnet www.cia.gov 80
> Trying 198.81.129.100...
> Connected to www.odci.gov.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> GET / HTTP/1.0
> 
> HTTP/1.0 301 Found 
> Location: https://www.cia.gov/

Their public email gateways don't believe in crypto nearly as much as
cs.columbia.edu does.

    $ for d in cia.gov cs.columbia.edu; do
        echo; dig +sho -t mx $d | sort +0n |
        tee /dev/tty |
        perl -lne 'm{(\S+)\.$} && print $1' |
        while read h; do echo; smtp-finger -t "[$h]" $d 2>&1 |
        perl -lne 'print unless (/^-{5}BEGIN/ .. /^-{5}END/);'; done; done

    5 mail2.ucia.gov.
    10 mail1.ucia.gov.

    smtp-finger: Connected to mail2.ucia.gov[198.81.129.148]:25
    smtp-finger: < 220 mail2b.ucia.gov ESMTP
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-mail2b.ucia.gov
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250 SIZE 104857600

    smtp-finger: Connected to mail1.ucia.gov[198.81.129.68]:25
    smtp-finger: < 220 mail1a.ucia.gov ESMTP
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-mail1a.ucia.gov
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250 SIZE 104857600

    100 cs.columbia.edu.
    200 ober.cs.columbia.edu.
    200 opus.cs.columbia.edu.

    smtp-finger: Connected to cs.columbia.edu[128.59.16.20]:25
    smtp-finger: < 220 cs.columbia.edu ESMTP Sendmail (8.12.10/22/jtt/sed/ib42) 
is thrilled to serve you at Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:27:13 -0500 (EST).
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-cs.columbia.edu Hello amnesiac.ms.com [192.0.2.1], 
pleased to meet you
    smtp-finger: < 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
    smtp-finger: < 250-PIPELINING
    smtp-finger: < 250-EXPN
    smtp-finger: < 250-VERB
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250-SIZE 25000000
    smtp-finger: < 250-DSN
    smtp-finger: < 250-ETRN
    smtp-finger: < 250-STARTTLS
    smtp-finger: < 250-DELIVERBY
    smtp-finger: < 250 HELP
    smtp-finger: > STARTTLS
    smtp-finger: < 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
    smtp-finger: certificate verification failed for 
cs.columbia.edu[128.59.16.20]:25: untrusted issuer /C=US/O=Equifax Secure 
Inc./CN=Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1
    smtp-finger: TLSv1 connection to 
cs.columbia.edu(cs.columbia.edu[128.59.16.20]:25) with cipher 
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-cs.columbia.edu Hello amnesiac.ms.com [192.0.2.1], 
pleased to meet you
    smtp-finger: < 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
    smtp-finger: < 250-PIPELINING
    smtp-finger: < 250-EXPN
    smtp-finger: < 250-VERB
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250-SIZE 25000000
    smtp-finger: < 250-DSN
    smtp-finger: < 250-ETRN
    smtp-finger: < 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
    smtp-finger: < 250-DELIVERBY
    smtp-finger: < 250 HELP
    smtp-finger: Unverified: subject_CN=cs.columbia.edu, issuer=Equifax Secure 
Global eBusiness CA-1
    smtp-finger: Server session id: 
8EA8B66A9DCCA0903BF75B7FC71316CE201330A0B1B09114FB6BE15E25AA9827
    smtp-finger: Common Name: cs.columbia.edu: matched
    ---
    Certificate chain
     0 
s:/C=US/O=cs.columbia.edu/OU=https://services.choicepoint.net/get.jsp?GT13222205/OU=See
 www.geotrust.com/quickssl/cps (c)04/OU=Domain Control Validated - This is a 
GeoTrust QuickSSL Premium(R) Certificate/CN=cs.columbia.edu
       i:/C=US/O=Equifax Secure Inc./CN=Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1

    smtp-finger: Connected to ober.cs.columbia.edu[128.59.18.100]:25
    smtp-finger: < 220 ober.cs.columbia.edu ESMTP Sendmail 
(8.12.10/22/jtt/sed/ib42) is thrilled to serve you at Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:27:14 
-0500 (EST).
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-ober.cs.columbia.edu Hello amnesiac.ms.com [192.0.2.1], 
pleased to meet you
    smtp-finger: < 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
    smtp-finger: < 250-PIPELINING
    smtp-finger: < 250-EXPN
    smtp-finger: < 250-VERB
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250-SIZE 25000000
    smtp-finger: < 250-DSN
    smtp-finger: < 250-ETRN
    smtp-finger: < 250-STARTTLS
    smtp-finger: < 250-DELIVERBY
    smtp-finger: < 250 HELP
    smtp-finger: > STARTTLS
    smtp-finger: < 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
    smtp-finger: certificate verification failed for 
ober.cs.columbia.edu[128.59.18.100]:25: untrusted issuer /C=US/O=Equifax Secure 
Inc./CN=Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1
    smtp-finger: TLSv1 connection to 
ober.cs.columbia.edu(ober.cs.columbia.edu[128.59.18.100]:25) with cipher 
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-ober.cs.columbia.edu Hello amnesiac.ms.com [192.0.2.1], 
pleased to meet you
    smtp-finger: < 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
    smtp-finger: < 250-PIPELINING
    smtp-finger: < 250-EXPN
    smtp-finger: < 250-VERB
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250-SIZE 25000000
    smtp-finger: < 250-DSN
    smtp-finger: < 250-ETRN
    smtp-finger: < 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
    smtp-finger: < 250-DELIVERBY
    smtp-finger: < 250 HELP
    smtp-finger: Unverified: subject_CN=ober.cs.columbia.edu, issuer=Equifax 
Secure Global eBusiness CA-1
    smtp-finger: Server session id: 
BD13DB29EA51632C6AA3B32CD2418E468DE27FF24FD1E2DDAF41E8F9C0D127A3
    smtp-finger: Common Name: ober.cs.columbia.edu: matched
    ---
    Certificate chain
     0 
s:/C=US/O=ober.cs.columbia.edu/OU=https://services.choicepoint.net/get.jsp?GT54350519/OU=See
 www.geotrust.com/quickssl/cps (c)04/OU=Domain Control Validated - This is a 
GeoTrust QuickSSL Premium(R) Certificate/CN=ober.cs.columbia.edu
       i:/C=US/O=Equifax Secure Inc./CN=Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1

    smtp-finger: Connected to opus.cs.columbia.edu[128.59.20.100]:25
    smtp-finger: < 220 opus.cs.columbia.edu ESMTP Sendmail 
(8.12.10/22/jtt/sed/ib42) is thrilled to serve you at Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:27:19 
-0500 (EST).
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-opus.cs.columbia.edu Hello amnesiac.ms.com [192.0.2.1], 
pleased to meet you
    smtp-finger: < 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
    smtp-finger: < 250-PIPELINING
    smtp-finger: < 250-EXPN
    smtp-finger: < 250-VERB
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250-SIZE 25000000
    smtp-finger: < 250-DSN
    smtp-finger: < 250-ETRN
    smtp-finger: < 250-STARTTLS
    smtp-finger: < 250-DELIVERBY
    smtp-finger: < 250 HELP
    smtp-finger: > STARTTLS
    smtp-finger: < 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
    smtp-finger: certificate verification failed for 
opus.cs.columbia.edu[128.59.20.100]:25: untrusted issuer /C=US/O=Equifax Secure 
Inc./CN=Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1
    smtp-finger: TLSv1 connection to 
opus.cs.columbia.edu(opus.cs.columbia.edu[128.59.20.100]:25) with cipher 
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)
    smtp-finger: > EHLO amnesiac.ms.com
    smtp-finger: < 250-opus.cs.columbia.edu Hello amnesiac.ms.com [192.0.2.1], 
pleased to meet you
    smtp-finger: < 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
    smtp-finger: < 250-PIPELINING
    smtp-finger: < 250-EXPN
    smtp-finger: < 250-VERB
    smtp-finger: < 250-8BITMIME
    smtp-finger: < 250-SIZE 25000000
    smtp-finger: < 250-DSN
    smtp-finger: < 250-ETRN
    smtp-finger: < 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
    smtp-finger: < 250-DELIVERBY
    smtp-finger: < 250 HELP
    smtp-finger: Unverified: subject_CN=opus.cs.columbia.edu, issuer=Equifax 
Secure Global eBusiness CA-1
    smtp-finger: Server session id: 
66B95E48EF282B6D96E87D317E17822417AED06377ECCA2300B3ECF09E19E10A
    smtp-finger: Common Name: opus.cs.columbia.edu: matched
    ---
    Certificate chain
     0 
s:/C=US/O=opus.cs.columbia.edu/OU=https://services.choicepoint.net/get.jsp?GT85845534/OU=See
 www.geotrust.com/quickssl/cps (c)04/OU=Domain Control Validated - This is a 
GeoTrust QuickSSL Premium(R) Certificate/CN=opus.cs.columbia.edu
       i:/C=US/O=Equifax Secure Inc./CN=Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1

-- 
        Viktor.

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