On 3/09/13 18:13 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
....
    The real issue is that the P-521 curve has IP against it, so if you
    want to use freely usable curves, you're stuck with P-256 and P-384
    until some more patents expire. That's more of it than 192 bit
    security. We can hold our noses and use P-384 and AES-256 for a while.

             Jon


What is the state of prior art for the P-384? When was it first published?

Given that RIM is trying to sell itself right now and the patents are
the only asset worth having, I don't have good feelings on this. Well
apart from the business opportunities for expert witnesses specializing
in crypto.

The problem is that to make the market move we need everyone to decide
to go in the same direction. So even though my employer can afford a
license, there is no commercial value to that license unless everyone
else has access.


Do we have an ECC curve that is (1) secure and (2) has a written
description prior to 1 Sept 1993?


(Not answering your direct question.) Personally, I was happy to plan on using DJB's Curve25519. He's done the research and says it is good. Comments?


Due to submarine patent potential, even that is not necessarily enough
but it would be a start.



iang


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