Nico Williams <n...@cryptonector.com> writes:
>On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Peter Gutmann <pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz> 
>wrote:
>> There have been attacks on SSH based on the fact that portions of the packets
>> aren't authenticated, and as soon as the TLS folks stop bikeshedding and 
>> adopt
>> encrypt-then-MAC I'm going to propose the same thing for SSH, it's such a
>> no-brainer it should have been adopted years ago when the first attacks 
>> popped
>> up.
>
>No need, just deprecate the CBC ciphers from SSHv2 and be done.  We do have 
>counter-mode replacements.

How does counter-mode stop manipulation of the encrypted metadata at the start
of the SSH packet, which is what previous attacks have targeted?

(And for those who get the reference: "Puts out fires, does he?").

Peter.
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