On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 1:55:49 PM UTC-7, jean-pierre.muench wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> > Chiming in, yes, I just pulled from master (hadn't updated for about a
> > month), did full 32 and 64 -bit builds of cryptest, and all is good -
> > not a single warning or error, and all tests pass - thanks, Jeff and
> > all who contributed to this level of code cleanliness and compatibility!
> >
> > That said, it would be nice if we could move into the present, and use
> > vs2015 as a base (vs2010, really?) for Windows builds - but I know not
> > everyone agrees on this point. ;)
> VS2010 and VS2015 basically have the same (project- and solution-)
> format. VS2015 adds a few new fancy switches (like CFG) but nothing of
> real and hard importance.
> So it's really a matter of "letting the IDE switch the compiler version
> from v100 to v140", so let's just stay at the older version for now.
>
Letting the project files get too far behind what is current will bite
folks eventually - and for exactly what perceived "benefit"?
But this doesn't seem to worry anyone here...
> >
> > It is *free* (the "Community Edition"), and after the recently
> > ("Update 3") replaced codegen, generates really smart and nice code -
> > note that I am only paying attention to the 64-bit Intel support here.
> >
> It is not free as in "you don't have to pay anything", you pay with
> having to sign in to your MS account, which has already trapped some of
> us here. And if you're a developer who (for whatever reason) doesn't
> qualify for the community edition, you have to pay several hundred USD
> to get the pro version, which is not a dependency or a requirement we
> want to impose on people.
>
> TL;DR: As far as I understand current consensus we won't upgrade from
> VS2010 project files away, because it's not enough of a benefit for too
> much potential headache for the users.
>
> BR
>
> JPM
>
Modulo everyone understanding that use in a for-profit project could of
course require a paid upgrade to a "Pro" version, it *is* free - 1) ANY MS
account works, even if just something you signed up years ago for say, an
old MSDN subscription, and 2) you only need to "log in" to VS 2015 once to
"activate" the Community Edition, you don't need to do it again.
I can certainly understand users from the non-Windows world not having any
MS "account" they can use for this purpose, but anyone who has developed
for Windows for more than the last 6 months NOT having one? Really? :)
I am not interested in arguing these points, just trying to make sure other
folks are not talked out of using a very nice free tool by thinking there
are "barriers" when there really may not be any at all.
Again, *I* am not the one who is doing the maintenance work on Crypto++,
and if the people who *are* generously donating their time and talents
choose for themselves to not update the project, or not use current tooling
that is free in the majority of cases, that is their call - but it might be
a bit more fair to ensure that more than one side of the argument is heard.
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