I’m not sure retaining the clause starting with “A CA identifying a high risk 
application under this section…” provides much clarity or value. Two reasons:

 

1.      All other language concerning high risk checks in section 4.2.1 has 
been struck. The turn of phrase “under this section” implies there are 
additional requirements defined in this section, but there are none. This will 
likely result in confusion.
2.      The requirement for the CA to confirm that the Applicant has not been 
the victim of multiple Takeover Attacks is still present in section 4.2.2. I’m 
not sure we need a reference to that requirement in another section.

 

I’m partial to removing the clause entirely. However, if the group agrees that 
it should be retained, then I think at the very least the language needs to be 
modified to no longer imply that there are (non-existent) requirements in the 
current section.

 

Thanks,

Corey

 

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From: Cscwg-public <[email protected]> on behalf of Martijn 
Katerbarg via Cscwg-public <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 9:22 AM
To: Bruce Morton <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>; Tim Hollebeek <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Cscwg-public] Ballot CSC-??: High Risk Requirements Update 

 

Hi Bruce,

Going for the full clarification:

 

The PR show that:


”Prior to issuing a Code Signing Certificate, each CA SHOULD check at least one 
database containing information about known or suspected producers, publishers, 
or distributors of Suspect Code, as identified or indicated by an Anti-Malware 
Organization and any database of deceptive names maintained by an Application 
Software Provider. The CA MUST determine whether the entity is identified as 
requesting a Code Signing Certificate from a High Risk Region of Concern. The 
CA MUST also maintain and check an internal database listing Certificates 
revoked due to Code Signatures on Suspect Code and previous certificate 
requests rejected by the CA. ”

 

Is being replaced with:

 


”Prior to issuing a Code Signing Certificate, each CA SHOULD check at least one 
database containing information about known or suspected producers, publishers, 
or distributors of Suspect Code, as identified or indicated by an Anti-Malware 
Organization and any database of deceptive names maintained by an Application 
Software Provider. The CA MUST also maintain and check an internal database 
listing Certificates revoked due to Code Signatures on Suspect Code and 
previous certificate requests rejected by the CA. ”

 

That makes sense. Then the PR goes on to additionally remove:
“A CA identifying a high risk application under this section MUST follow the 
additional procedures defined in [Section 
4.2.2](#422-approval-or-rejection-of-certificate-applications) of this document 
to ensure that the applicant will protect its Private Keys and not sign Suspect 
Code.”


That’s the part I think should remain.



So yes, I think we’re on the same page with that one 😊

Regards,

Martijn

 

 

 

From: Bruce Morton <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 22 November 2023 at 14:34
To: Martijn Katerbarg <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>, Tim Hollebeek 
([email protected]) <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ballot CSC-??: High Risk Requirements Update

Hi Martijn,

 

For clarification, for the following two paragraphs which have been deleted, 
you would like the first deleted and the second to remain:

 

Prior to issuing a Code Signing Certificate, each CA SHOULD check at least one 
database containing information about known or suspected producers, publishers, 
or distributors of Suspect Code, as identified or indicated by an Anti-Malware 
Organization and any database of deceptive names maintained by an Application 
Software Provider. The CA MUST determine whether the entity is identified as 
requesting a Code Signing Certificate from a High Risk Region of Concern. The 
CA MUST also maintain and check an internal database listing Certificates 
revoked due to Code Signatures on Suspect Code and previous certificate 
requests rejected by the CA.

 

A CA identifying a high risk application under this section MUST follow the 
additional procedures defined in [Section 
4.2.2](#422-approval-or-rejection-of-certificate-applications) of this document 
to ensure that the applicant will protect its Private Keys and not sign Suspect 
Code.

 

If so, I agree to this change. Please confirm.

 

 <mailto:[email protected]> @Tim  Hollebeek 
([email protected]) does this work for you?

 

 

Thanks, Bruce.

 

From: Martijn Katerbarg <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 3:32 AM
To: Bruce Morton <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Ballot CSC-??: High Risk Requirements Update

 

Bruce, I’ve added a single comment on the PR, as I think we’ve removed one 
paragraph too much. Other than that, I’m also happy to endorse.


Regards,

Martijn

 

From: Cscwg-public <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Bruce Morton via 
Cscwg-public <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Date: Tuesday, 21 November 2023 at 20:25
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [Cscwg-public] Ballot CSC-??: High Risk Requirements Update

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Here is a draft of the High Risk Requirements update ballot. Looking for 
comments and 2 endorsers. There is no future effectivity date proposed, since 
the ballot does not add new requirements.

 

Thanks, Bruce.

 

 

Purpose of the Ballot

This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management 
of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing Certificates“ version 3.4 in order to clarify 
language regarding Signing Service and signing requests. The main goals of this 
ballot are to:

1.      Remove references to High Risk Certificate Request, since the CSBRs do 
not provide any actions for a high risk application.
2.      Remove references to High Risk Region of Concern, since the CSBR 
appendix has never been populated.
3.      Remove rules for a Takeover Attack to require the Subscriber to 
generate keys in a crypto device, since crypto device key generation is now a 
baseline requirement for all code signing certificates.
4.      Remove option to transfer private key which has been generated in 
software.
5.      Cleanup to remove Subscriber key generation option which expired 
effective 1 June 2023.
6.      Cleanup to remove “any other method” to verify the Subscriber key was 
generated in a crypto device, since this option expired 1 June 2023.

The following motion has been proposed by Bruce Morton of Entrust and endorsed 
by ?? and ??.

 

MOTION BEGINS

 

This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management 
of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing Certificates” ("Code Signing Baseline 
Requirements") based on version 3.4. MODIFY the Code Signing Baseline 
Requirements as specified in the following redline: 
https://github.com/cabforum/code-signing/pull/31/files 
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MOTION ENDS

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