It's not even that man, it's that he's too dense to see how poorly he makes the rest of us look to Valve. The majority of us appreciate Valve's work, and are thankful that this listserv even exists, unfortunately the dumbest and loudest paints all of us with the same brush. It also appears that he didn't read any of what we said, otherwise his response would have been different.
Oh well, what can we do? On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Absurd Minds <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, it actually makes you happy to upset people, to such a degree that > you will purposely continue after they mention it? I think you should get > that looked at by a professional. That's not normal human behavior, but > rather a hallmark of a psychopath. > On Aug 13, 2014 12:35 PM, "Michael Loveless" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Got the innanet goin nuts! >> >> Today started out crappy with this Valve nonsense, then blossomed into >> full blown happiness by how mad I made all of you nerds with a post that >> definitely touches on a core problem within every one of your communities. >> You guys are so butt hurt about WORDS that you go on a day long tangent >> about someone who is just saying what all you douche bags are thinking. I'm >> giving Valve the same exact respect and treatment they give you and I. I'm >> glad I have touched all of your hearts so deeply. Have a great day. Jesus >> loves you =D >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Steve Reigh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks epicoder, >>> I'd like to add that it doesn't matter how large or small your or our >>> community is, Mr. Loveless, be grateful for the fact that you even have to >>> opportunity to communicate with Valve. It only makes their job harder >>> having to deal with whiny people like yourself. The irony of someones >>> "must earn respect" comment is so strong. >>> >>> Something else that has bothered me as well, people acting like Valve >>> has no dedication to "them", please, spare me. If they had no dedication >>> to "you" this game wouldn't exist, and no updates would have happened. You >>> do realize that the developers at Valve aren't assigned to CS:GO, right? >>> They can choose to work on whatever they want, and the fact that they stick >>> to CS:GO even when getting emails from people like you speaks volumes to >>> their character far and away above yours. >>> >>> The majority of us joined this listserv to get updates from Valve as to >>> when updates are happening to the game we love, not to hear whiny >>> complaints. Please spare us the whining and post informative, professional >>> posts. All of us in a professional environment have to deal with crap >>> constantly, it's how you deal with it that defines you, and it's looking to >>> me like maybe this isn't the right field for you. In any other industry, >>> you just lost your biggest client. Emails like that are unacceptable, >>> especially to people that are putting food on your table. >>> >>> Sorry if it was more of a directed attack, the lack of respect just >>> frustrates me as a whole, and this is a spot that is a more direct >>> communication with Valve and should be treated with a higher standard. >>> >>> Have a good day boys, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:50 AM, epicoder <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Your constitutional rights prevent only the government from taking >>>> action against you for what you say- You will not be arrested for saying >>>> anything other than overt violent threats on this mailing list. However, >>>> Valve can throw you off for any reason they want to, and I wouldn't >>>> blame them considering your multiple profanity-laden outbursts. >>>> >>>> On 8/13/2014 8:03 AM, Michael Loveless wrote: >>>> > Thanks, Edward. Like I need advice from some douchebag on the >>>> internet. >>>> > You obviously have no servers of value because if you did, there would >>>> > be no "chill" left in you. Your dweeby little shit pub with your 2 >>>> > friends on it doesn't matter. Communities that are sitting on 200-300+ >>>> > concurrent connections 24 hours a day have every right to be irate at >>>> > this point because our communities are being obliterated by the >>>> > complacency of Valve with their product. As long as this mailing list >>>> > exists to freely post on, and I live in America where I have a >>>> > constitutional right to bitch and question anything I want, I will >>>> > continue to in the most professional or unprofessional of >>>> > ways...whichever I choose. Don't like it....don't respond to me. I >>>> have >>>> > to have my email flooded with 80 emails a day from people in this >>>> > mailing list bitching about much less important things, so I will vent >>>> > my frustration when I choose to. God bless America. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:16 AM, violet <[email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Kudos Mr. Loveless, >>>> > >>>> > In a matchmaking session just a week ago, i reconnect to find >>>> myself >>>> > locked out of the match by was of "failed to join session" error. >>>> > After repeated attempts to rejoin the match, multiple steam >>>> > restarts, impending cooldown any moment, i was able to rejoin my >>>> > match. Another person in my match experienced the same at the >>>> time. >>>> > >>>> > This gives me pause to ask, has Valve found a way to have their >>>> own >>>> > servers reconnect to allow the players' reconnection? >>>> > >>>> > As a server owner sitting in the same boat as Mr. Loveless, >>>> evenings >>>> > like last night, coupled with minimal updates every couple of days >>>> > are only fuel for rage, so the action, or lack of action on >>>> valve's >>>> > part is only causing an understandable reaction. >>>> > >>>> > I would like to know, as a server owner, how it was, as a client, >>>> > that i was able to reconnect to a Valve server after getting this >>>> > "failed to join session" error we know to be fatal to our >>>> community >>>> > servers? >>>> > >>>> > Thank you again Mr. Loveless. >>>> > Although your delivery is a bit strong, your frustration is met by >>>> > all, I am sure. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Ejziponken - <[email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > You are not getting it. We already way past the "chill" time. >>>> > We posted several times and waited and waited respectfully. >>>> > When that don't work people tend to try a more aggressive way >>>> to >>>> > get answers. It may not work, but there isn't really any other >>>> > options other than just accept it and give up. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 12:11:05 +0100 >>>> > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Lobby Reservations >>>> > >>>> > +1 and Michael needs to chill out, if anyone wants a response >>>> > then how about be more professional and respectful towards >>>> Valve >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 13 August 2014 11:58, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek >>>> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Ejziponken, I think this is enough trolling for today. >>>> > If you want to help out, report and describe the problem, >>>> > date and time when connection issues occur and in which >>>> > region you are so conclusions can be drawn as to which >>>> > servers are affected and how. >>>> > Keep in mind that this is a mailing list and not 4chan. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 13.08.2014 12:55, Ejziponken - wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I'm guessing they don't respond because all they can >>>> say >>>> > is that they have sucky servers and don't know how to >>>> > fix the problem. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 06:38:13 -0400 >>>> > From: [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > Subject: [Csgo_servers] Lobby Reservations >>>> > >>>> > This is such bullshit. Why at 6:30 am EST do the Steam >>>> > servers need to go down, along with the CSGO Game >>>> > Coordinator? WHY? Yesterday Steam went down 6 times. 6 >>>> > times CS:GO servers needed to be restarted. Now at >>>> 6:30 >>>> > in the morning. Servers are just now getting their >>>> > populations re-established after yesterdays fuckin >>>> > fiasco. How are servers supposed to stay populated >>>> when >>>> > they need to have everyone kicked off them numerous >>>> > times per day? Do you even realize that the majority >>>> of >>>> > the CSGO community has no idea why servers owners need >>>> > to boot their entire population of players multiple >>>> > times per day? They will just simply not return after >>>> it >>>> > happens to them more than once. >>>> > >>>> > Why are you trying to completely destroy public >>>> > communities? It'd be nice if one of you guys at Valve >>>> > responded to the single most disturbing thing in the >>>> > entire CS:GO server operator community. You have no >>>> > problem responding for days to questions asked about >>>> > cvars that are used by .01% of the CS:GO server owner >>>> > community but can't respond to the daily questions as >>>> to >>>> > why you force us to restart our servers multiple times >>>> > per day. You do realize that public communities single >>>> > handedly made this game survive over the past decade, >>>> > don't you? It certainly wasn't your dedication to >>>> > providing a good experience for the one community that >>>> > basically built your entire empire. >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> > [email protected] <mailto: >>>> [email protected]> >>>> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Edward Januszewski >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ Csgo_servers >>>> > mailing list [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csgo_servers mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Csgo_servers mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >> > > _______________________________________________ > Csgo_servers mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers >
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