People having an intention isn't a defining criteria for a flame war, unless of course you're judging your own intention.
Accusing people of flaming when being criticized, seems to be IMHO.
But it is good that you cleared your previous "mis-phrasing" (as you seemingly describe it?) up. Because your initial statement literally taken has a different meaning.

On 16.12.2015 00:45, Patrick W wrote:

Using the words “cheap” and “own agenda” will start a flame war, which is exactly what I didn’t want, so I will add no more to this thread other than:

My main intentions behind my message was ONLY: to confirm a lot of stuff has broken since the latest update, irrespective of webkit or GOTV.

I have no agenda, other than for a fix. I don’t know much about GOTV period. I just thought I’d have a go at explaining why things are as they are, and to let you know Valve have been contacted.

I assumed “GOTV” contained an element of non-static content, which would tie in my original statement. It isn’t about MY fix or YOUR fix, it is a fix that will benefit many people for various reasons (that’s both webkit and GOTV).

A mature, constructive conversation is not much to ask. I can handle criticism.

*From:*csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Absurd Minds
*Sent:* 15 December 2015 23:35
*To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
*Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] source tv not working since 9th update

I'm asking a question to learn information. Answering the question isn't going to start a flame war. Not answering it isn't helpful, so if you're worried about being unhelpful then please answer.

On Dec 15, 2015 6:32 PM, "Patrick W" <patric...@motdgd.com <mailto:patric...@motdgd.com>> wrote:

    Guys, I don’t want to start a flame war, I am not a coder at all,
    I just pointed something out in-case it was helpful. I apologise
    if it wasn’t helpful.


    I will leave you to it - thanks

    *From:*csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
    <mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>
    [mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
    <mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] *On Behalf
    Of *Absurd Minds
    *Sent:* 15 December 2015 23:29
    *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
    <mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] source tv not working since 9th update

    What is non static about a gotv?

    On Dec 15, 2015 6:27 PM, "Patrick W" <patric...@motdgd.com
    <mailto:patric...@motdgd.com>> wrote:

        This is my theory, I don’t know 100% about GOTV but the webkit
        is broken, and it is causing problems with loads of non-static
        in-game stuff right now, including plugins and in-game
        commands, music streaming, ads etc.

        It seems like a real coincidence this has stopped working
        since the update that broke a lot of other stuff, so I am
        hedging my bets here.

        Just an “educated” guess…

        *From:*csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
        <mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>
        [mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
        <mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] *On
        Behalf Of *Absurd Minds
        *Sent:* 15 December 2015 23:23
        *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
        <mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] source tv not working since 9th
        update

        Wait, what? Connecting to gotv is controlled by webkit?

        On Dec 15, 2015 6:21 PM, "Patrick W" <patric...@motdgd.com
        <mailto:patric...@motdgd.com>> wrote:

            This is because webkit is broken for anything other than
            the initial page hit.

            Non-static content doesn’t work basically, as you pointed
            out since the update to the CEF browser. We are
            communicating with Valve to get this fixed ASAP, as it’s
            affecting a lot of people.

            Thanks

            *From:*csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
            <mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>
            [mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
            <mailto:csgo_servers-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com>] *On
            Behalf Of *Absurd Minds
            *Sent:* 15 December 2015 23:16
            *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
            <mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com>
            *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] source tv not working since
            9th update

            I can't connect to GOTV even when connecting to the server
            first and then connecting to the GOTV.

            On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Marco Padovan
            <e...@evcz.tk <mailto:e...@evcz.tk>> wrote:

                Apparently it works only if first you try to connect
                to the gameserver, and then connect to the gotv port

                On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Marco Padovan
                <e...@evcz.tk <mailto:e...@evcz.tk>> wrote:

                    Hi,

                    apparently since yesterday update people cannot
                    connect to our TVs anymore (linux).

                    No matter if the TVs are password protected or
                    not, they always try to join a 0xfffffff lobby
                    then fail.

                    Is this happening to anyone else?


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