Mac addresses translate up to IP addresses. That's how they make it out of
the "home network" before the router. IP translation. Hexidecimal to
decimal plus subnet mask. What most people who haven't studied electronics
first, prior to I.T.. Is that your Mac address converts even lower to
binary. Which every piece of electronics hardware uses to speak to one
another. Including routers, switches, gateways, headends, network interface
devices, fiber optics cabling/75ohm coax cabling, frame relays, t1/t3,
blade servers, switch master/slave, etc.

It all comes down to a single bit. An electron with either 0-2.5vdc, or
2.5-5vdc. A low state, or a high state. And your IP address directly
translates down to the Mac address below the software/transport layer (
below the hardware layer, the writable electronics components layer ) of
the OSI model. In this layer everything is binary addressed before machine
assembly/reassembly. Ya know the layer where only us electronics engineers,
and technicians really know how it all works.

If you've ever seen a network training curriculum you know what an IP
address range/translation table was built from. And if you knew electronics
you'd know how computers, cellular phones, and lan/wifi all tie in
together. If it's connected to a network it has a Mac address. Because Macs
have to be used to communicate OVER a network. Through translation in the
software layer before packet assembly to the transport layer. And once you
translate down to a Mac address you can filter all incoming udp packets
from any given device using Mac addressing.

It's not for just the hobbyist who doesn't really know how electronic
components speak to one another.

Period. That said. Have a nice day. Very few here have a proper education
in networking/NETSec/ITSec. Most of these people are running leased
servers, most of the ones with the immature responses. Who don't have a
CLUE how it all really works.

When you begin studying ccde/ccie through Cisco come speak with me. Until
then, make all the juvenile untrained/uneducated comments you want. I
really don't care. I stopped running a go server the second I found out
people still play source. Less bugs. Less vulnerabilities. Less bugged
netcode. And much easier to modify.

Willing to bet no one here ever used the sdk either. Or you'd know what
code was flawed in go.

I will comment from time to time to pass along wisdom. I will ignore the
juveniles, and uneducated people that respond in ignorance/lack of
education. Ya read a tutorial on how to setup an hlds/go server and you
think you know everything. When you have one piece of a ten thousand piece
puzzle figured out.

Just this list. So you know the packets it took just for this msg to get to
Valve servers and to your isp smtp server? Probably not.

Probably don't know what packet sniffing is, nor who does it, nor how it
can be injected/reformed/malformed. So farewell to the script kiddies and
juvenile mentality people on this list.

To everyone else, see ya on the next issue you're encountering server side.
And Hi Alfred been a minute since I wrote directly. Hope Gabe doesn't fall
asleep on hl3/cs3 development. Steam needs an update too. A 64 bit Steam
squared client using vulkan based api, and rendering would be nice as well.
You could port the older games content to mobile/any device, and launch the
newer stuff on whatever platforms you wanted.

Someday I will let Alfred explain how Steam became Steam when it was
originally called Reaktor.

-StealthMode

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 09:30 m0gely <m0g...@gmail.com> wrote:

> MAC addresses are unique to each network hardware component and assigned
> by the manufacture. They are also non-routable, meaning that information
> doesn't make it past the home router the device is connected to. A CS
> server won't see a client's MAC. Also, IP addresses are handed out by each
> ISP. How could one ever be translated into another? Clients can get
> different IP's from their router at home at any time and their router will
> get different IP's from the ISP frequently as well. The MAC doesn't change,
> the IP likely will. The two are unrelated to each other. This is all basic
> network knowledge and easily searchable. Maybe you can provide a link to
> something that is the reason you think this way.
>
> Going back to lurker mode.
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 3:57 AM Stealth Mode <stealthmode1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> When you uneducated people learn electronics you will understand the
>> difference between a script kiddie. And a professional electronics engineer
>> who branched into I.T.
>>
>> Everything I have stated is fact.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 05:34 Ryan Bentley <rdp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Literally everything you type is completely incorrect. You completely
>>> misunderstand the fundamental basics. I nearly choked laughing on my tea
>>> when you thought you could translate a MAC address to an IP address. How do
>>> you screw up so badly? Get some therapy or something man, you are lying to
>>> yourself every day.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Stealth Mode <stealthmode1...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok kids. Have fun trying to denounce without having the education, or
>>>> knowledge of electronics engineering + I.T. to even have a valid base to
>>>> speak from. I shared what I was here to share. Call it nonsense if you
>>>> wish. Professionals know it is not.
>>>>
>>>> Good day.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 04:39 Ryan Bentley <rdp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stealth, you are either a 10/10 troll or a seriously deluded person.
>>>>> You have less knowledge than a 1st year CS student.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Stealth Mode <
>>>>> stealthmode1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your Mac address is converted at the handoff between the hardware
>>>>>> layer, and the transport/packet layer. It then converts to an IP address.
>>>>>> Google converters for deci to hexidecimal. There are plenty out there. 
>>>>>> Run
>>>>>> a plt sniffer or rcon or netstat table of connections for the IP 
>>>>>> connected
>>>>>> to your machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 01:39 Zaretti Steve <kosso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you are right. You can only see the mac of the nearest switch/router.
>>>>>>> Stealth Mode is just spamming some random word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-04-22 6:42 GMT+02:00 Mukunda Johnson <muku...@mukunda.com>:
>>>>>>> > I'm pretty sure mac addresses aren't even exposed to the server;
>>>>>>> this topic
>>>>>>> > is getting pretty derailed isn't it?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad <n0man....@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Where can I find this IP/decimal to Mac converter you speak of?
>>>>>>> Could you
>>>>>>> >> give an example? You speak highly of yourself, here is your
>>>>>>> chance to prove
>>>>>>> >> it.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018, 4:07 am Stealth Mode, <
>>>>>>> stealthmode1...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> The fix is to create a bash script that looks for that in the
>>>>>>> server log
>>>>>>> >>> (the repietitive call to null.wav), and automatically ban. If
>>>>>>> you push the
>>>>>>> >>> IP through a ip/decimal conversion tool you can make it a Mac
>>>>>>> address ban
>>>>>>> >>> right in the hardware packet/transport layer.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> End of message.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 20:04 wickedplayer494 <
>>>>>>> wickedplayer...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Just to keep everyone on the list in the loop, McJohn said that
>>>>>>> a fix
>>>>>>> >>>> for servers crashing (which I can only assume is a result of
>>>>>>> this) is being
>>>>>>> >>>> worked on:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/8d7hkr/3kliksphilips_interview_with_a_cheater/dxljl53/?context=3
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On 4/17/2018 3:22 PM, iNilo wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> A player on my server was able to spam all the clients with a
>>>>>>> script he
>>>>>>> >>>> later linked ( https://hastebin.com/fufarowuba.cpp )
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> its causing massive console spams.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> https://i.imgur.com/nOWLkeq.png
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Someone has a fix for this?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> - iNilo.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
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