> On 8/15/05, Pringle, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what your actual question pertaining to CSS is.
> > If it was "how do I style forms", then the list's wiki page should be of
> > help to you.

On 8/15/05, Garrett Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 0. I want to control the style of form elements. As-is, it is a
> crapshoot in the browsers. you can apply some properties to some
> elements in some browsers. But then when you try to float something or
> position something, it might break in one browser.

<snip/>

> Discussion:
> See the extra "faux" padding on the button and input type="button"?
> It's different in opera. Different in IE. The faux padding is absent
> only in Safari.
...
> I'm glad that there are people reading this other than mozilla
> developers and CSS Spec authors. I've worked with forms on real jobs
> for real sites and had a lot problems and tedious, and hackish
> workarounds required to meet design and browser reqs.

Garrett, I think you missed the point that Ron was subtly stating.
CSS-Discuss is a forum for discussing the practical application of
CSS[1], not a forum for airing grievances about browsers' abilities or
lack thereof to apply style. If you are looking for a practical
application that addresses your issues, or if you have a question
about how to do something with CSS, by all means feel free to ask for
that here.

"Has anyone found a way to style button elements?" is a valid
question, one that Chris Heilmann answered a while back with his
statement that there isn't a lot that can be done. "Browsers should be
able to style button elements," which might be valid on other forums,
is off topic here, as it helps nobody resolve the issue in today's
browsers.

Thanks,

Michael

[1] http://www.css-discuss.org, first paragraph
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