Tony Balazs wrote:
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I have seen advice as follows: forget CSS and just use tables for something as simple as this; use Javascript (x.js) to get x-browser compatibility; write it quick and dirty in MS Powerpoint (! that has to be a bad idea, no?); use browser detection and write several versions.
A whole bunch of really bad advices. Surely based on knowledge that must be even older than the CSS template you've chosen :-) Ignore them (and IE4 and Opera 5 should be forgotten by now). Your Mac is fine, and I think Camino is fine as design-check base. Not familiar with that browser. For cross-browser compatibility year 2005: rewrite all 'font:....' so font-sizes are defined in 'em' or '%', and line-heights are in 'em', '%' or 'unitless', as IE/win can't resize fonts defined in px-units. Keeping banner centered: As you describe it it sounds like you want the whole page to center, so here we go... 1: Correct a flaw in mark-up. There are 4 </div> at the bottom of <div id="leftColumn">. Only 3 of them should be there, so move one down to just above </body>. This is vital for centering to work, and keeping track of containers is important in any case. 2: Use this style: body { padding: 20px; margin: 0; text-align: center; } #pageFrame { display: table; width: 984px; margin: 0 auto 0 auto; text-align: left; } That's all I needed to do for that page. Looking fine in Opera 8.5, Firefox 1.4b1, Safari 1.2.4, iCab b280 and IE6. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/