It sounds to me as though your problems would be greatly decreased if the gradient below the tabs was a hard edge. Have you asked about changing that one element of the design or is it graven in stone? It's rather a half-assed gradient and quite ugly IMO -- Richard Grevers New Plymouth, New Zealand Orphan Gmail invites free to good homes. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/