> If that shift is too disturbing at your end, then try: > > html {height: 100%; overflow-y: scroll;} > body {min-height: 100%; padding: 1px;} > > ...that should cover some browsers. Adjust padding as needed.
Thanks Georg, I tried this but got inconsistent results. I have an existing bottom margin of 50px, I could solve the page shift but lost the bottom margin or vice versa, I tried different settings but couldn't get the same on all browsers. Kristina replied off list and suggested this: html { min-height: 100.01%; margin-bottom: 0.01%; } After playing with both suggestions I now have this: html { min-height: 100.01%; } ... @media all and (min-width: 0px) { html { height: 100%; } body { min-height: 100%; padding-bottom: 1px; } } I believe the @media all is an Opera only filter? I've tested with FF 1.0.7, Opera 8.5, and IE 6.0 on Win XP SP2 with the following results: FF = no page shift, margin OK, no unnecessary scroll on short pages IE = no page shift, margin OK, no unnecessary scroll on short pages Opera = no page shift, margin OK, some scroll on short pages I'd much rather have a little extra scroll instead of page shifting, but if anyone can see how to fix that as well it would be better. The original post is here: html: http://public.softectra.com/dev/lang/markup/css/cssd/251105_1/index.html css: http://public.softectra.com/dev/lang/markup/css/cssd/251105_1/css/good_brows ers.css And the current one is here: html: http://public.softectra.com/dev/lang/markup/css/cssd/281105_1/index.html css: http://public.softectra.com/dev/lang/markup/css/cssd/281105_1/css/good_brows ers.css You can switch between the home page and COMPONENTS for long and short pages. Thanks for all your help. I'm really desperate for some IE/Mac and Safari testing, can anyone help? Thanks. Mark. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/