hepabolu wrote: >Hi, >This is my first website: http://www.origami-osn.nl/osn/en/start.html . >It works as intended, but I'm not completely satisfied. I can't point my >finger to the itch, so maybe some of you can. Please note that I'm more >of a web developer than a web designer. >Thanks. >Bye, Helma > Hi Helma, No bad for a first site! - This said, here we go: - On the page www.origami-osn.nl/osn/en/reactie.form <http://www.origami-osn.nl/osn/en/reactie.form> I saw: "This website is built with valid XHTML 1.0 and valid CSS". So I couldn't escape to try. ;-) Results for this page, oops: "This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional!" and "10 Errors in CSS". Some minor errors, but nevertheless. - Radar onboard? Looks I tried just the wrong page for this first check - after this I tried some other pages, which where going allright. - The transparency in the submenu's doesn't make the submenu very readable for me. When you make it non-tranparent, nobody will miss it, I think. The css-validator will be more happy too! - The height of the items in the submenu's doesn't correspond with the height of the items in the menu itself. - Hovering over the submenu items causes some flashing. Perhaps you can use something of my testpage "The Keybordfish <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/the_Keybordfish.htm>" with a similair kind of concept [no; same effect but other concept, see next item]. Lots of comments are in the source code. Also availabe in Dutch: "De Keyboardfish, nieuwe soort Suckerfish ontdekt in Nederland <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/designhulp/keybordfish.htm>". - Ah, hereafter I see the menu is not a Suckerfish-menu (css-based), but a javascript "tigra" menu. A lot of script is needed: slowers the download. But without enabled javascript: there is no menu at all! People who visit te site for the first time, don't know the is a lot more the the first page ... - Now somewhere on the page there is a "Message from the webmaster", but how should people who don't see a menu get the idea that there is an explanation on that page? - Besides, visitors directly started on an other page (via Google or external link) are missing this important message. - The least you can do is to making a <noscript>text</noscript> at the place of the (empty) menu, which says "Please enable Javascript to see the menu", with a link to the webmaster-page. [edit: or to the beautifull sitemap!]. Better is to make a <noscript> menu, which comes as js is not enabled (with unfolded submenu items). The best is to forget the javascript menu, an have a css-menu instead. That asks a bit of javascript too (needed for showing the submenu in Internet Explorer), but a lot less kB's. - See the articles "Sons of suckerfish <http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/>". - In the header, my attention is drawn by the angled tearoff left side, while the rest of the page is just clean & rectangulair. Why this? - The blue background is a bit overwhelming imo, perhaps the white letters can be made more visible by enlarging them somewhat, or using a contrasting dropshadow under the letters, or making the image more pale with using of dark letters. Or an other kind of image (this one has for me more the association with patchwork then with origami). - The Speed Report <http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/wso.php?url=http://www.origami-osn.nl/osn/en/start.html> of the startpage indicates a rather long downloadtime for 56k modems: about 1/2 minute before everything is on screen. The same for "vraagenaanbod.html" and probably the same for the other pages. Then a quick browse through some pages aks some patience of the visitor... - Main cause is the big amount of images. Perhaps you can optimize them (making 256 or even 16 color gif's of the 16M color png's for the small images can often give a lossless saving of 50% or more of the kB's), or combine them (a serie of images besides each other in one gif or jpg; then calling as background-images, and taking the right part with the {background-position: x y } property). - Startpage: in Internet Explorer (IE6 under Win98SE) there is a gap between the horses-image and the first box "Error in workshop description Mennorode" (about as high as the horses-image). Didn't figure it out, but seems you have to make an IE-hack for the width of the column. Often IE is taking a wrong method for calculating the witdh in %. - Hovering over the heads ("Folding together" or "Origami Peace Tree Festival" on the start page) gives a flashing grey background. Seems you can click on it, but thats not true. - Ah, I see, it are the anchor elements: "<a name="foldingtogether">Folding together</a>" that do it. Replacing by <a name="foldingtogether"></a>Folding together" will make it normal. - Mostly a column "Links" is a listing with some external links to other sites about the same subject. Over here they are internal links to other pages on the site. Perhaps an other title of this box can make that clearer. - Almost standard is that a logo is clickable, and leads to the home page. A quick made link!
Hope this feedback doesn't trigger more itch! Greetings and succes, francky ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
