[snip] I think the problem is that you need to delete that gross image and make
believe it never happened. There is no need to re-invent the wheel. There are numerous layouts on the Wiki < http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ >that are known to work. Pick one that suits your need(many of the 3 col layouts are easily converted to 2 cols). [/snip] Whoa! Gross image? There is some positive re-enforcement there! (FYI, the image was provided to me, I don't really have a choice on that. And if I had created the image I would be totally insulted.) I have looked at several 2 and 3 column layouts and have made use of those that I know to work in other situations. The new things here are the header and footer. It would appear that the header is the major cause of the problem, but it is designed that way so that additional elements can be layered on top of the image. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/