Thank you for your help Al and Philippe Al I tried what you said, it looks like the rectangle shows up but not the text. Also I lost the white color when I removed the height from the white bar even though I had the background color set.
then I changed the whitebar name and that didn't do anything. I do need to have white in that section and it seems it won't stay white without a height and when I change the name from having white in it it won't stay white even with height set! By the way the first orange menu item that isn't showing works fine on the home page http://acd.liztestsite.com/indexTest.shtml although now I have lost the white color there. Must run out now will check for responses later. Thank you so much for responding. Liz On 7/12/06 7:40 PM, "Al Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Liz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Can anyone tell me why the first orange top menu item "Products" >> disappears >> in Safari and FireFox on Mac but is ok in IE and FireFox on the PC? >> It was >> ok on Mac until I kept adding content to the page. The 2 column >> part of >> this page is from http://www.liztestsite.com/acd/css/2col.css and >> the main >> part is from http://www.liztestsite.com/acd/css/acd.css >> >> I'm still pretty new to css layout so please tell me in easy to >> understand >> language. >> >> http://www.liztestsite.com/acd/prod_nortel.html > > #loweLinks needs a width sufficient to fit all the root menu items. > Remove margin and used balanced top and bottom padding. > #whitebar: remove height > #pgTitle: remove margins > > You m,ight need to tweak a bit from there to get it to your liking. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/