Hello list, some dear member of this list mailed me, helped me. The problem for Safari was a doctype one! (I needed to apply a strict doctype to my pages)
nevertheless some other offset appeared at other positions in my ul li navigation. I solved this by setting some assumed px fontsize and lineheight for my non-displaying text ... (same fontsize as the bg height of my images shown for my li ids are.) IE 7 Problem still there: the bottom border (2px dotted) at hovering does not appear at the thumbnails (bottom of the page) Same sample page for my problem is below: (the mailserver somehow breaks the URL in two lines though I put it into tags.... which results in an 'object not found', in case it happens again, please delete the %20 within the URL) <http://www.fabian-helmich.de/seiten/portrait_1/ p1_1_sun_angelika_1.html> stylesheets: http://www.fabian-helmich.de/css/fabian_base.css http://www.fabian-helmich.de/css/fabian_p1.css bye, beate ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/