ok, i answered my own question.

i used this approach:

<p><a href="somelink.html" id="somename"><span>Text to be 
replaced</span></a></p>

I then gave the <a> a background image, and on hover, adjusted the 
background position to show the hover state. And finished by giving the 
<span> a display:block; and text-indent:-9999px;

granted, i haven't yet checked in the evil IE twins, 6 and 7, but all is 
well in firefox and safari.  i would think that technique is not really 
so far-out and crazy that it wouldn't work.

thanks!

jen

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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:58:22 -0600
From: J Siegfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [css-d] Image replacement with hover effect, not in a nav
        list
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hi -

i keep coming across this issue, and i can't seem to find anything in a 
google search ...

i want to replace text with an image, and have the image change its 
background position on hover, but it's not part of a navlist - it's 
either placed under a <p> or floated next to a <p>.

somehow, my brain doesn't know how to approach this if it's not part of 
a navlist.  i keep thinking that if i wrap the hyperlink in an <a> and 
move it off the screen, then apply a background image to, say, a <p>, 
how does the background position of one element change when you hover 
over the other? 

or, if i place the background image on the <a>, in order to take 
advantage of the hover property to move the background position, do i 
then have to use a <span> to contain the text and move it off the 
screen?  i usually avoid the IR method involving <span>s, but maybe this 
is just the way to do this technique, i don't know.

i am probably thinking about it all wrong, or making it more complicated 
than it really is...

can someone point me to a link, if you have one, that might address this 
specific issue? all i've been able to find is regarding navigation lists.

thanks in advance!

jen


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