Ray Leventhal wrote: > david wrote: > <snip> >>> While in a perfect world I'd agree with David, it's not so much the >>> 'tender egos of folk involved in designing the site' it's usually, >>> imnsho, the un- or refused-to-be-educated folk who actually pay for the >>> site to look/feel a certain way. >>> >>> 0.02 delivered :) >> Part of this business is education. It may take awhile. Reinforced with >> factual information demonstrating how customers unhappy with their >> mousetype are happily shopping at their competition's websites sometimes >> helps. ;-) >> > david: > > Without at doubt, educating clients is truly the hardest part of my job. > But nonetheless the one I do most often. Sometimes they're agreeable > and open to suggestions for reasons of browser compatibility or > accessibility. Other times they're um...less reasonable :)
Some people learn one way, others learn other ways. For some folk, business cases are a way to learn. > Either way, I agree that getting people to 'see right' is the key...and > that often means defending the 'reasons that separation of content and > layout is a good idea'. Thankfully, I am a true believer in that, now > (amazing since a year ago I'd have fought diligently for my ol' > tables!). I generally preach standards adherence, but since reading > some really good things from this list about serving XHTML as XML, I've > worked towards getting clients to understand a bit more of the "how and > why" rather than the "this is just good practice". Thank you for helping improve the future for web designers everywhere! :-) -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] authenticity, honesty, community ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/