From: Pat Veriepe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I thought I had figured this out with Firebug, but the text is still not 
>bold. It's a nested ul ul.
>
>The linked text saying "THIS SHOULD BE BOLD" is bold in Safari but not 
>in Firefox or IE. Could this be a problem because of a bug in both 
>browsers with nested lists?
>
>Please check out this url: http://veriepe.com/TEST222.html

Personally, I don't think that there is a bug at all. You have set the 
font-size in your body selector to be 70%. On my computer, that makes the lines 
that make up the glyphs of the font only one pixel wide. When I changed the 
font-size to 80% (or simply increased the font size in the browser), it was 
clear that the text is bold. At 80%, the browser makes the lines 2px wide.

What's a browser to do to make something bold when it has nothing to work with? 
(only one pixel, in other words).

Using the Web Developer toolbar in Firefox, and editing the CSS to to switch 
from bold to normal, that browser *does* change something between the two 
font-weights. Try it and see. 

Apparently Safari draws the font differently than Firefox if you can clearly 
tell that the text is bold in that browser. 78% for the body font-size is the 
smallest percent that I could use on your page to get Firefox to clearly show 
what I would call bold text. This is where the gliph's lines went from being 
1px wide to being 2px wide.

I have noticed in the past, when using very tiny type, that browsers show bold 
text by increasing the width of the glyphs themselves (not just the lines). 
This is what is happening with your bold text. When bold is applied, a lower 
case "o" for example, is 4px wide from one side to the other. When bold is 
applied, it is 5px wide. 

So, if you want the text to "look" bold, you're going to have to increase the 
font-size, I think.

I hope this is useful.

~holly 
 
                   
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