here is my fancy recreation of what i've been stuck on for the past few hours. http://westboundandweary.com/accuray/left_subnav.html
In Firefox this appears correct In IE6 there are spaces at the very top and bottom of the list in IE7 there is a large space at the very top of the list, you can even see the background image i have set on the <ul> repeating. this is one looks the worste. At first i thought it was the divs i put in the li to make background images, but i tried taking the divs out and just having empty LI's with background images, and that resulted in the same thing. i have them inside the list because otherwise it messes up the javascript displaying the whole thing. here is the html: <ul id="leftnav"><li><a href="/WorkArea/Linkit.aspx?ItemID=518&LinkIdentifier=id"><span>CYBERKNIFE</span></a> <ul><li><div id="leftsubnav_top"></div></li> <li><a href="#"><span>Submenu item 1</span></a></li> <li><a href="#"><span>Submenu item 1</span></a></li> <li><a href="#"><span>Submenu item 1</span></a></li> <li><a href="#"><span>Submenu item 1</span></a></li> <li><a href="#"><span>Submenu item 1</span></a></li> <li><div id="leftsubnav_bot"></div></li> </ul> </li> <li><a href="/ClinicalInfo/Education/Clinical-Training.aspx"><span>SYBCHRONY</span></a></li> <li><a href="/ClinicalInfo/Education/Onsite-Training.aspx"><span>ROBOCOUCH</span></a></li> <li><a href="/ClinicalInfo/Education/CyberKnifeUniversityOnline/index.aspx"><span>XSIGHT SPINE</span></a></li> <li><a href="/ClinicalInfo/Education/CyberKnifeUniversityOnline/index.aspx"><span>MULTIPLAN</span></a></li> <li><a href="/ClinicalInfo/Education/CyberKnifeUniversityOnline/index.aspx"><span>INVIEW</span></a></li> <li><a href="/ClinicalInfo/Education/CyberKnifeUniversityOnline/index.aspx"><span>XCHANGE</span></a></li> </ul> Thanks, sandy ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/