Kenny, thanks for that tip - it is a neat solution. But seeing as the negative margin worked for me I'm going to leave well alone, guided by the motto "If it isn't broken, don't fix it". Peter H. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/