-Caveat Lector- "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence then an armed man." --- Thomas Jefferson -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Postings by Paul - The Day of Treason & Terror! Date: 7 Dec 98 09:34:32 PST From: American Patriot Friends Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been post to APFN MESSAGE BOARD: http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb77532 Dec 7 Japan bombs Pearl Harbor, 1941 Re: Postings by Paul - The Day of Treason & Terror! December 7, 1941 By Kenneth L. Vardon Don't forget that President Roosevelt discussed the attack on Pearl Harbor months ahead with Winston Churchill. That has been played on short wave. In a taped telephone Conversation, Churchill makes the statement "it's the only way you are going get the American people in the war", Roosevelt replies, "I guess your right". I may not have the exact words, but it is close because I told myself, "this I have to remember". When I find a copy of that tape it will be played on APFN WEB PAGE. That tape may be on the web now? Roosevelt is also well know for the statement, "Nothing in government happens by accident!" Do you think they had planned to murder the children at Mt. Carmel in advance? That would make me about as mad as I am about the bombing of Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941. Hartford Van Dyke wrote a book called "Skeleton in your Closet" which is about the cover up of the advance knowledge of the attack. I have heard him on talk radio on the subject. I wish someone would contact him and publish that information on the internet. Hartford, lives in Battle Mountain, Oregon. I haven't talked with him in a long time. Hartford is also the father of the "Lien Process on Public Officials" and the ghost author of "Silent Weapons for Quit Wars" --- Sure fooled Bill Cooper! I can also tell you that the "Gulf of Tolkin" was a set up to get us into the "Police Action" of Viet Nam. Yes, I am a little up set on this day of TREASON and TERROR (horror)! May God bless those souls who parished on that sad day. May God serve justice to those murders. A sad day indeed. Just think about it, "THEY KNOW". "What mankind will do for "POWER" and "MONEY"? One must be like the other, you have either too much or too little of one or the other! Oh, oooop's I forgot!---I am out of time! Just in from a APFN NETWORKER - FM ICQ: 12719737 Remember whatever dialog goes on here whether you agree with it or not was made possible by our soldiers past and present just think if Germany had won WW2 or worse if after the war we hadn't stood up to the communists the internet probably would not even exist..... nitehunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- APFN ICQ: 10811517 No copyright - Free to Copy - Forward - Fax - Trash - Respond! ========================================================================== AMERICAN PATRIOT MESSAGE BOARD POSTINGS AS OF DEC 7 1992 http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb77532 (No subject) Sunday, 06-Dec-98 21:59:05 Message: 209.212.192.49 writes: News on socialists in our House of Representatives. You can go to get information on socialists in our House of Representatives. http://www.dsausa.org When there, click on "organization" and read about the DSA, especially the first two sentences! Then, go "back" to homepage. When there, click on progressive challenge". When there, click on "Progressive Caucus Members". Here, you will find a list of 58 members of the House of Representatives who are members of the "Congressional Progressive Caucus" which is an entity affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America. The CPC Executive Chair is held by Bernard Sanders, VT-at large. Mr. Sanders has been said to be the only openly socialist Representative in our House. There are 57 other members of the CPC, and several of them you will recognize as some of the chief apologists for the President. Henry Waxman, John Conyers, Maxin Waters, Barney Frank, David Bonior, Jerrold Nadler, Chaka Fattah, et al. Would think they would be up front on their CPC membership before apologizing for the President? Check it out. Keep the Faith, Paul Click here to reply (APFN NOTE): THIS MESSAGE WAS POSTED WHILE I WAS WRITING THE BELOW MESSAGE TO POST: (No subject) Sunday, 06-Dec-98 21:41:33 Message: 209.212.192.49 writes: Check out the reply by Paul to the Global Governance New World Order statement by Jan. Paul Click here to reply Replies: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Posting by Paul... (07-Dec-98 06:42:49) Re: Posting by Paul...Monday, 07-Dec-98 06:42:49 208.147.127.6 writes: Paul: Please don't leave us in the dark. Please post the message and the information or don't POST, send an email. Thanks to all for the wonderful information posted to this message board. Keep it coming. Please stay on topic, "Without justice, there is JUST_US!" "The Rule of Law" v. "Laws that Rule" Any or/all subjects seeking, truth, justice & freedom. Any or/ all abuse of; "Oath of Office" by any public servant. Any networking or web pages that will assist others in learning about abuse of power. Any or/all suggestions on enforcing; "Truth in Elite Media" I hope everybody is building a email/fax network of family and friends. APFN is not about race, unless it's the human race. I read last night a Book supplied awhile ago, "Un-Common - Common Sense" from the, "Faith, Family, Justice and Freedom Foundation" I think we as PATRIOTS and lovers of God, Family and country we can share in this truth. I've been doing this for over five years. When I woke up after reading this; I more then ever know that what has keep me driving is "in fact" not "fiction". If ever America needed PATRIOTS it's now! This next week history in Law will be written. Either we are a nation of "The Rule of Law". The U.S. House [EMAIL PROTECTED] supports the fact that you can not lie under "Oath". Any congressperson that does not support that "Truth in Law" is in fact an offender of their, "Oath of Office" and should be dealt with accordingly. You do not have to be a lawyer to be a lover of LAW [TRUTH]! You do not need to be a lawyer to understand "The Rule of Law", you do not have to be a lawyer to understand "Laws that Rule". Just don't smoke in a bar in California! Don't ware your seat belt! Don't mine gold! Don't spank your children! Don't!, Don't!, and oh yes, don't object to giving your SSN to anyone that asks. Your SSN is also coveted to your drivers lic. number and don't drive without that insurance! Get ready to stand n line for your SSN implant so you can shop faster. Oh, yes, our parents were told that the SSN would never be used in any manner or form of identification. Ha! Now when a baby is born he/she is assigned their SSN. I assume you all know how to boil a frog. I wonder what they are telling us as parents that our children will inherit. Humm! Giving up the first and second Amendments is something to ponder. Then it could be hate of one form or another. The media likes to make sure we are a divided people with some form of hate about something or someone ... Isn't that swell!.. It's hard to get through the day without some sort of hate being pushed at us. It won't work in the long run, humans by nature are a loving caring being. Anger and hate are not art of the true nature of the (human) being. It is a learned trite that has to be nourished constantly or true human nature of caring and love prevail. (That's a mouth full). Those teaching this hate are the enemy. Leave me to my home, my family, to love and cherish. I'll leave you to yours. "If I have not committed a victim I have not committed a crime"! If I commit a crime and am convicted I expect "The Rule of Law" to be applied to the letter, without exception. If I break a "RULE" --- I'll stand in the Connor until I agree to that RULE! I guess! Now I am having fun! I don't know all the answers but, "It's not what I know, it's what I don't know"! Please read and follow APFN postings in this series: "The Rule of Law" V. "Laws that Rule", next posting will be #10. A corrections to these postings from Lawyers. You do not have to be a member of the ABA to be a lawyer. You do have to be a member of the STATE BAR to charge for lawyer services. I would wonder if my Lawyer Advisers would do a little research. Just for a fact, how many of the 545 are; 1)lawyers 2)members of the ABA 3)were elected out of a law office 4)study David Douge's research on the 13th Amendment and post debates 5)admit that "Laws that Rule" is a form of population control 6)enforce "All laws repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." - United States Supreme Court Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137, 1803 7) defend - "We, the People, are the rightful masters of both the Congress and the Courts. Not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who have perverted it." -- Amraham Lincoin I hope everybody that reads this, sends it to at least 5 lawyer friends. I look forward to the replies. I sure wish Congressmen Conyers form my hometown would access this and reply. He sure backed down to Janet Reno in the hearings on Waco. That whole side of the committee acted in the same manner as they are on these impeachment hearings. What was strange to me about the Waco hearings is that it had nothing to do with an offence of "Oath of Office" it had to duewith government abuse in the murders of citizens that had not committed a crime. In the trials the Davidians were acquitted of any charges of being the first to fire" The jury ruled they had the right to defend themselves. I interviewed the jury foreperson, Sahra Bain on the radio. She clearly stated that the Davidians were not rpt now responsible for the firefight. Then if not the Davidians, WHO? Please read the current postings, "Why Waco? Patriots Respond!" and replies Posted on this message board. --- "....and the truth shall set you FREE....! The publisher of the above book "Un-Common - Common Sense" has a web page; WARNING...The Fight for Freedom and Common Sense:.... WARNING Regardless of political party affiliation, if you are a liberal, a socialist, a statist, a communist, a nazi (all symptoms of the disease of tyranny), a color/quota bigot, anyone who believes they are "entitled" to the success of others; if you believe that the Constitution is "living" and defined by Supreme Court penumbra instead of the clear intent of the Founding Fathers (For the educationally challenged, this means determine if a law is specifically allowed by the Constitution - "YES!" - or make law as they see fit - "NO!".); if you hate freedom, hate America and the American ideal or, if you believe that emotions are more important than right and wrong, FURTHER READING COULD CAUSE SEVERE FEELINGS OF ANGER AND FRUSTRATION AND COULD IRREPARABLY DAMAGE YOUR SELF-ESTEEM. (On the other hand, I really don't care.) http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/fightforfreedom/index.html Only the "Truth" and nothing but the "Truth" will be and always has been "The Rule of God". A humble servant. A proud American and a free soul. Kenneth Vardon, Founder (APFN) American Patriot (Friends & Fax) Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Information: Send blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/apfn/ [APFN] American Patriot Friends Network (HOME PAGE) http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/apfn/ [APFN] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Email Alerts/broadcast receive/send list: This is open to all subscribers to send and receive messages, however it is moderated to maintain security and/or abuse. http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/apfn Subject: Re: Why Waco? Patriots Respond! Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 09:50:09 -0700 From: Mike Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization:The Cyber Recycler To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 Real-To: Mike Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Passing around fruitcakes part of your holiday ritual? <g> -- Mike Crawford The Cyber Recycler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Somebody must be reading the message board! 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