From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > 12/15/98--was sincerely hoping we could get your reaction ot the latest of laurence gardner's theories. do his ideas fit your concept of the beginning of the bloodline ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] > COUNT***> That is a good question. As Mr Gardner's ideas have become a mixture of > various other author's and scholar's views (some of which are on the > right track and others which are somewhat dubious), I would say yes and > no. As our friends in the posting group have mentioned before, Gardner > is working from a personal agenda, and I can vouch for that viewpoint. I > could liken his situation to a person who knows that history making > events will soon be taking place, and he does not want to miss the glory > involved. General Patton worried about the same thing, but he was > destined to be in the fray that was known as W.W.II. I know that your > next question would be: what of Gardner's views are correct about the > Bloodline? The antiquity, the Holy right of Kingship, the line of > descent(in general terms), and various events in the Bloodline's history > which have been hidden or obscured from history. > > > > > > ---- you wrote: > > > > > > well, you said to look in the middle east for the font of the bloodline. that pretty much has to mean sumeria. you didn't like my ishtar and tammuz speculation.> > > > > > is gardner correct ? that the bloodline begins with cain and etana ? > COUNT*****> There were many Cains in history, as the human race as > Homo-sapiens-sapiens are over 150,000 years old. Which one could he be > referring to? Names are such interchangeable things in the ancient's > books. No, the bloodline was not begun with any Cain in history. Etana > is a close approximation to the start, as the God Kings were descended > from him. But, he was not the starting point. The original starting > point would be Adapa, but that is not the official starting point of > Kingship. Officially, Nimrod was the first King sanctioned by God. > Research in that area of history. The Bloodline stretches back beyond > recorded history, but it's Kingship began with Nimrod. > > I have a few comments to make about the following commentary. > > > > > > > > > the word 'kingship' derived from 'cainship,' referring to the Biblical > > > > > > > > cain. (for importance of cain, see part one) > COUNT***> No. There were Heavenly Kings long before Cain. > > > > > > > > stresses the importance of melatonin ingestion to most efficiently > > > > > > > > metabolize the intake of pineal gland secretions --- 'melatonin' > > > > > > > > meaning night worker or night laborer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those with high melatonin output react negatively to sunlight ; they > > > > > > > > are 'night operatives' > > > > > > > > . . . 'by virtue of their bodily conditioning through supplementary > > > > > > > > melatonin and other hormonal secretions, they [grail kings] were in > > > > > > > > fact princes of darkness' > COUNT****> I must admit that I have never liked the sunlight, and I highly prefer > the night and darkness in general. I am and always have been what is > termed a "night person", but "Princes of Darkness"? I'm sorry, but, it > seems to me that Mr. Gardner is about to suggest that we are vampires of > some sort. That is totally preposterous. We know that the melatonin our > body produces can cause interesting anomalies when it is augmented by an > external means. It is also believed that individuals with advanced > psychic ability have higher output of melatonin than the ordinary > person. > I have never taken any melatonin, and my family has not been known to > take it either, but there may be a possibility that it was taken in the > past. I would think that whatever ability you would gain from it's > application would have to already be present. In other words, an > ordinary individual couldn't take a few pills and begin reading minds or > using the Matrix. > > > > > > > > > ancient egyptian court of the dragon (see part one) carried on after > > > > > > > > lapses of centuries : 15th century chancellor of dragon court was > > > > > > > > prince vlad III of transylvania-wallachia > > > > > > > > COUNT****> It sounds like Dracula is about to be brought up. Tales of vampirism > have abounded in almost every civilization since the beginning of > recorded history. I continue to see small pieces of truth wrapped in > lies and exaggerations. I look forward to a time when the complete truth > is known by all, but that time is not yet upon us. > > > > > > > > > incursions into sumeria by akkadians, amorites, and elamits caused the > > > > > > > > civilization to decline ; thus, abraham leaves the city of ur > > COUNT*****> Why were there incursions? Why did Abram leave Ur? Look into this area > as well. > > > > > > > > > > in time, the starfire 'cocktail'(see part one) was replaced by the > > > > > > > > eating of a white powder, monoatomic gold, to heighten consiousness > COUNT*****> It seems to me that Gardner has confused the God's elixir of eternal > life with what he calls the "starfire cocktail". We do not have the > materials for the elixir. The white powder he speaks of, is reminiscent > of various Egyptian rituals. > > I've commented on a few more paragraphs below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sumerian writings of 3700 b.c.e. tell us these gods were > > > > > > > > brothers > > > > > > > > > > > enlil > > > > > > > > > > > > (Jehovah) and enki (Adon) > > COUNT****> They were mistaken names. Though Enlil was equated with Yahweh(Jehovah), > which was a misunderstanding, an actual Yahweh existed, who even Anu, > Enlil, and Enki were subordinate to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hermetic schools of pharoah tuthmosis III ca. 1450 b.c.e. -- > > > > > > > > royal > > > > > > > > > > > court > > > > > > > > > > > > of the dragon (crocodile) -- founded by the egyptian priests > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > mendes > > > > > > > > > > > > ca. 2200 b.c.e. > > > > COUNT****Also sometimes referred to as Leviathan. I have a few interesting facts > concerning Leviathan, of which I'll save for a later date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the order of the dragon passed through egypt to kings of > > > > > > > > jerusalem to the black sea princes of scythia to the balkans to the > > > > > > > > royal house of hungary -- king sigismund revived royal court of the > > > > > > > > dragon > > > > > > > > > > > sovereignty in 14th century > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pharoahs annointed with fat of the crocodile (dragon) -- > > > > > > > > crocodile > > > > > > > > > > > > referred to as 'messeh' and the sovereigns became known as > > > > > > > > dragons or messiahs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in times of battle, the armies of the various egyptian > > > > > > > kingdoms > > > > > > > > > > > banded > > > > > > > > > > > > together and elected a war lord known as the great dragon or > > > > > > > > > > > pendragon > > > > > > > > > > > > of the line of king arthur > > > COUNT*****> This information is partially true. Sigismund is one of my ancestors, > and the Pharaoh's were anointed in crocodile fat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first king of the messianic dragon was the biblical cain, head > > > > > > > > of the sumerian house of kish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus' ancestor was not seth, son of adam and eve, but cain, > > > > > > > > son of > > > > > > > > > > > eve and the Lord (Adon) > > COUNT****> No. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gene of the succession within the messianic/dragon bloodline > > > > > > > > carried > > > > > > > > > > > > within the blood of the mother > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dragon family members orginally fed on menstrum of Ninkhursag, > > > > > > > > enki's sister -- menstrum known as 'star fire' -- this goddess was > > > > > > > > known as > > > > > > > > > > > > isis to the egyptians > > > COUNT*****> No. We're getting Mother worship mixed up in a group that originally > were, and continue to be patrilineal. Matrilineal groups were started by > Ishtar and continue in one form or another to worship her image today. > There is plenty of information about her in the texts. Though related, > that is of no major importance. > > > > I hope that I have been able to answer your questions satisfactorily. > Have a very pleasant holiday and a happy new year. > > Regards, > > Ct. Roman A.U. 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