I have to disagree on Edison, he was a firm believer in DC voltage (maybe he had some other ideas before his time.) It was Tesla who was a proponent of Alternating Current. There are without a doubt natural rythms to music that can "stir the soul". In the filming of "Doctor Zhivago", Spanish authorities under Franco, were dispatched to monitor the filming of several marching scenes and take notes on who was singing "Das Kapital" with the vigor of marxists, or their allies. Music is primal, it can to some extent manipulate a crowd, or influence mood, but not on a scale that some technology can potentially perform. Advanced special effects in movies have evolved as our society has moved from a visceral- seperation from the movies, to actually being a "bystander" in the action. For example the progression from Psycho, where the violence was inferred, to A Nightmare on Elm Street, or Halloween- where the violence is gruesome for soley a gratuitus reason, BUT IT SELLS. Imagination is gone in the group we call- Generation X; how many of them can find humor in a non-colorized version of Laurel and Hardy. Ever have an MRI? there are a LOT of people who suffer panic attacks when inside of one. I just got irritated at them bothering me all of the time when they were asking me. Brain implants wander into a gray area that really needs close scrutiny, because there may come a time when it is routine for a kid who may be diagnosed with A.D.D. (incorrectly at that), who has an implant to control his behavior. Why not routinely implant the same devices into all children who are not of the "chosen class" so that they will be able to be controlled? Sex sells, it just does. Is this harmful manipulation? Some would say so based on the fact that what our perceptions of beauty seem to be, like Kate Moss- "heroin druggie chic". Often it is not a matter of ethics of the researcher, as many of them see research as just that- research, neither good, nor bad. The larger question would regard those who would administer it, or arbitrarily decree it. At 12:18 PM 12/29/98 -0500, you wrote: >Gordon Tibbles wrote: > >> Read my original post. That he would recognize the danger and still conduct >> experimentation is unconscionable. There is no "safe" level and even if there were, >> the modulation to set up a specific field pattern within the brain has wider >> application to initiate and sustain MC. > >Is this true of Edison's programs for wiring countries for electricity? > >Is this true of the marches of John P. Sousa? > >Is this true of Wagner's "Ring Series" operatic works? > >Is this true of advanced *special effects* in motion pictures? > >Is this true of the developers of diagnostic Magnetic Resonance Imaging? > >Is this true of the physicians developing brain implants to improve the lives and function >of >those suffering from Parkinson's disease? > >Is this true of advertisers using sexual iconography to sell their products? > >Could you give us some examples of several neuroscientists who study brain function whose >work and personal ethics you would not attack? > >If you were asked to advise a committee that >approves research projects that involve brain stimulation of human subjects, could you lay >out >a set of criteria that should be followed? > >Gene Johnson > > > > > >> > > MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List >> > > To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >> > > the following text: "unsubscribe MINDCONTROL-L" or "subscribe >> > > MINDCONTROL-L". 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