-Caveat Lector- I agree that there are serious problems with the American system. I agree.. the entire 'rich get richer / poor get poorer' problem that our nation has fallen into is a horrible state of affairs, as are the facts that the President can now put us into a war whenever he pleases by simply calling it a 'police action', and that the separation of the three branches of government is so twisted currently. I simply feel that the designation of 'Communism' or 'Socialism' for these problems is a misnomer. 'Fascism' might be a little closer to home, but true Fascism usually has a huge upswing of Nationalism accompanying it. Calling our system 'Socialist' or 'Communist' because of an imbalance of political power is as mistaken as calling the departed U.S.S.R. 'Capitalist' because there were definitely people who made more than others for an equal amount of work. Socialism and Communism, in their idealized forms, do not include that large disparity of wealth. The U.S.S.R. did not have a 'true' (read: idealized) form of Communism and more than the U.S.A. has a 'true' form of Democracy. Both are very flawed versions of what they supposedly attempt. But just because an animal has fleas does not necessarily make it a dog. Semantics are important here. The words 'Socialism' or 'Communism' in daily usage have meanings that carry a certain emotional baggage that, while convincing in an argument, may not be accurate. We aren't communists or socialists, just deeply screwed up believers in democracy who have let things go wrong. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] United States.... A Communist Nation? Jim, I realise this is a little "out-there" but the Communist/Socialist influence is and has been imposed on us for many years. From what I have found it has grown a hell of a lot since WWII and isn't stopping or holding back at all. Everything we say or do is regulated by laws passed by our "Congress" as well as our "Presidents." Presidents aren't supposed to make laws. We have no separation between the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive branches of government. The "checks and balances" have all but disappeared and the iron boot on the face of mankind forever is becoming more evident in our daily lives. Consider this: "Are we a Republic?" Do Senators vote on bills that would benefit their State? Is the President concerned with the Constitution and does he veto bills that are against it. Does the Judiciary really consider the Constitution when judging laws? Why do I pay nearly half the money I earn to pay taxes that support rich corporate interests and give welfare to those who are too lazy to work. No, it's not purely Communism, but what do you call it when the rich get richer, the middle class pays exorbitant taxes, and the poor just barely get by.... is it Statism refined to incorporate Communism, Socialism and Fascism? Just some thoughts. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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