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I agree that there are serious problems with the American system.  I
agree.. the entire 'rich get richer / poor get poorer' problem that our
nation has fallen into is a horrible state of affairs, as are the facts
that the President can now put us into a war whenever he pleases by
simply calling it a 'police action', and that the separation of the
three branches of government is so twisted currently.  I simply feel
that the designation of 'Communism' or 'Socialism' for these problems is
a misnomer.  'Fascism' might be a little closer to home, but true
Fascism usually has a huge upswing of Nationalism accompanying it.
Calling our system 'Socialist' or 'Communist' because of an imbalance of
political power is as mistaken as calling the departed U.S.S.R.
'Capitalist' because there were definitely people who made more than
others for an equal amount of work.  Socialism and Communism, in their
idealized forms, do not include that large disparity of wealth.  The
U.S.S.R. did not have a 'true' (read: idealized) form of Communism and
more than the U.S.A. has a 'true' form of Democracy.  Both are very
flawed versions of what they supposedly attempt.  But just because an
animal has fleas does not necessarily make it a dog.  Semantics are
important here.  The words 'Socialism' or 'Communism' in daily usage
have meanings that carry a certain emotional baggage that, while
convincing in an argument, may not be accurate.  We aren't communists or
socialists, just deeply screwed up believers in democracy who have let
things go wrong.

        -----Original Message-----
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        Sent:   Monday, January 04, 1999 3:37 PM
        To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re: [CTRL] United States.... A Communist Nation?

         Jim,
             I realise this is a little "out-there" but the
Communist/Socialist
        influence is and has been imposed on us for many years.  From
what I have
        found it has grown a hell of a lot since WWII and isn't stopping
or holding
        back at all.  Everything we say or do is regulated by laws
passed by our
        "Congress" as well as our "Presidents."  Presidents aren't
supposed to make
        laws.  We have no separation between the Legislative, Judicial,
and Executive
        branches of government.  The "checks and balances" have all but
disappeared
        and the iron boot on the face of mankind forever is becoming
more evident in
        our daily lives.
             Consider this:  "Are we a Republic?"  Do Senators vote on
bills that
        would benefit their State?  Is the President concerned with the
Constitution
        and does he veto bills that are against it.  Does the Judiciary
really
        consider the Constitution when judging laws?  Why do I pay
nearly half the
        money I earn to pay taxes that support rich corporate interests
and give
        welfare to those who are too lazy to work.  No, it's not  purely
Communism,
        but what do you call it when the rich get richer, the middle
class pays
        exorbitant taxes, and the poor just barely get by.... is it
Statism refined to
        incorporate Communism, Socialism and Fascism?   Just some
thoughts.

        Regards,
        Bob Stokes

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