-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ka- > What is your basic gripe about "white liberals"? I'm curious. I'm a > Native American (of European-Native American ancestry)...and I don't > remember "white conservatives" or "white libertarians," for that matter, > risking their lives on freedom rides to the south to end segregation in > the south....or running the risk of ending up in a Mississippi swamp(the > fate of a young Jewish boy and a black boy), because they believed that > Americans of all colors should have civil liberties. <excellent comments snipped purely for space considerations> Bravo, William! Thanks for articulating quite eloquently what I've been feeling for a long time. I sometimes think that the self-proclaimed "conservatives" and "libertarians" actually want to repeal the last century, and go back to the "good old days" of the Robber Barons, cut-throat capitalism, and Jim Crow legislation... It's a funny thing: if you ask people whether they are "liberal", "moderate", or "conservative", most will say "moderate"; yet if you ask them what *programs* they support, most will include virtually all of the liberal programs enacted since the New Deal. My sister once commented that there's really no such thing as a "liberal" anyway--you're either reactionary or progressive. Count me as progressive, then. Bob ================================= Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om