-Caveat Lector- Government requesting public input? Send this post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMOKE SCREEN Get a transcript of the questions asked by the democrats and follow the intent of their questions. None of their questions were about the possible crimes of Clinton. On the first day of "the investigation of Bill Clinton" it seems the democrats did not have one question about the issue being investigated. Instead of an investigation of Clinton, his crack sniffers put Starr on trial instead. What matters it if every one of their innuendo's were true? No matter what Starr or Charley Manson has done, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIMES CLINTON IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR. After Starr, the democrats complained about his conclusions and stated that DECIDING THE FATE OF CLINTION IS THE EXCLUSIVE JOB OF ->CONGRESS<-. When presenting his "defense", these same crack sniffers did not present one defense, instead they brought in their own patsies who only did what they accused Starr of ... dictating to congress what the fate of Clinton should be ! UNCLE TOM IDIOTS Clinton has the support of a segment of his own Uncle Tom's. It seems they have even called Clinton the first black president. They remind me of some of the idiot blacks I have seen when watching COPS. In these segments I have seen the cops in the arrest of blacks and in the event whole crowds of blacks begin to scream and threaten the cops for arresting a black man. It doesn't matter that the black fugitive just raped a black woman or thathe black man is selling dope to their kids or that the black fugitive just robbed and killed another black... Just because of their hateful prejudice of whites, they would rather let their fellow blacks be victimized rather than to be arrested by a filthy white man. Uncle Tom, ask your black master Clinton if he would be willing to take a polygraph test on questions about what he really thinks and says about blacks when none can hear him. If the black secretary wasn't a stupid uncle tom, your buddy Clinton would have used her as another black stepping stone. Just a black idiot to be turned into a felon and sent to prison to save himself ! What does Clinton care about blacks? What/Who does Clinton really care about? Every one around him is like toilet paper he uses to wipe with and then flushes when he has no further use for it. For the idiot blacks who wish to keep serving their black master, just keep on trucking. He will throw out some scraps to keep you picking his cotton and maybe every once in a while, he will give you a big piece of water melon. As for the segment of black Clinton boot lickers, let me ask them some questions about what they have said about equal rights and punishment under the law for blacks and why it their same standards does not belong to Clinton. THE CHAMELEON * When it serves his purpose Clinton calls on Christian preachers, talks about God and prayer... goes to church and pretends like he is a Christian. * When in Israel, Clinton made sure to be photographed wearing a Jewish beanie to get the support of Jews... Those of the Jewish religion say that Jesus Christ is either a fabrication or a liar... When with the Jews, this Christian/follower of Jesus Christ, changes hats and becomes one of those who know Christ was a liar. * When with blacks, this chameleon becomes a soul brother. * When he needs the money and votes of homos, this "Christian" makes it a right of homosexuals to be in the military with all of those pretty naked young men. * When this Christian is not being photographed carrying his bible on Sunday, he is signing bills to make it legal for babies to have their brains sucked out 10 seconds before their birth. Whites, blacks, homosexuals, Jews or Christians ... just like all those stupid women, he has you on your knees sucking his .... "WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT IS ..." It seems the politicians and press are always telling us what the American people think and what they want. If I am allowed to speak for myself, this American would like for each politician to answer these questions to the press and the American people. Instead of the politicians telling us (the people) what we think, let them answer these questions and tell the American people what their response to these questions are. Let the questions be published in the district of all congressmen and senators. Along with the questions, let the newspapers of each district publish the responses of their own congressmen/senators. If that congressman/senator refuses to reply, let it be reported. If indeed they are "our representatives", then let them answer our questions. PARTY LEMMINGS Instead of being outraged at the criminal politicians, the party groupies are brainwashed into protecting the crooked politicians who force those same laws on them ! We are forced to pay taxes used to hire cops. If we (the people) dare mock the laws of the politicians, the politicians have ensured that we be arrested (knocked down and beat up if we resist), they will take our wealth by force, imprison us and put our safety and lives in danger. If we dare break the laws of the politicians, hired thugs (cops- paid for out of our own taxes) will take our wealth and our freedoms Yet idiot party groupies would circumvent the laws of the land in order that their criminal political mob bosses are above the laws they impose on the nation? LAWS FOR THE PUBLIC AND DIFFERENT LAWS FOR THE POLITICIANS If any of your family filed false tax reports, you would be fined and/or imprisoned ... But Richard Nixon was exposed in tax fraud and what fines/prison term did this criminal get? IF Clinton has committed the same acts others have been fined/imprisoned for, then he is a criminal. IF Clinton has committed the same acts others have been declared to be a felon for, then Clinton is a felon. SEXUAL RELATIONS What do these words mean? Relations or relationships are some kind of interaction between two or more people. If you are involved in a romance, that is a romantic relation. If you are involved with someone at work, that is a work relationship. Relations: notes something that two or more people do together. SEX RELATIONS Sex relations involve any act done to arouse and/or reach a sexual climax. Visual ... stripping, specific movements ... Verbal ... dirty talk Hand touch ... legs, breast, buttox ... what ever causing or stimulating an erection. Sex organ touch ... by another sex organ, hand or mouth. In SEXUAL RELATIONS, the interaction between two people is sex. If a strange man called a woman and talked about poetry, vacuum cleaners or mushrooms, he would not be guilty of any crime, but if he began to talk about oral sex, he could be convicted of a crime. If the other party has no wish to hear it, it is an illegal sex act and if the other party wants to hear it, it is a legal sex act. When this verbal interaction takes place between two people it is a sexual relationship. Under the laws an adult male having an under age girl give him oral sex, would be convicted of a sex act with an under age girl. He would not be arrested for patting her on the head or holding her hand. The charge involving oral sex would be made BECAUSE IT IS SEX ! Thinking about sex is not a relation, but when people interact together for the purpose of arousal and/or a climax, it is a sexual relationship. First Clinton pointed his index finger at the American people and in your our face and now he is flipping his middle finger at congress and lying in their face. *** To hear the "media" you would think the whole caper is just about what Clinton said about a sexual relationship. Other than this bald face lie there are a dozen more. i.e. Clinton said he didn't remember who the woman was. Here he dropped his pants for her over and over to get oral sex and he testified under oath that he didn't remember who she was? How many men have had sex with a woman 5 times, exchanged gifts with them and don't know who they are? In other interviews I have seen Clinton's groupie politicians rave how Clinton has such a great mind and memory. First Clinton got to flip the American people the bird and now congress is doing it. *** LYING ABOUT SEX UNDER OATH In one news program (20/20 Nov 89), three people were interviewed after they had been convicted as felons for lying about sex under oath. CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS #1 Mr Congressman/senator, can this or any nation stand if government officials are not obligated to obey the laws they make for the people? #2 Is it your will (congressman/senator) that government officials are above the laws they impose on the American people? #3 If any government official is above the law ... If the "leader" of our nation is not subject to the laws of the land, is he a president or is he equivalent to a king/dictator? COUNTER ATTACK Now that Clinton is on trial, smoke screens are used to change the issues to all others who are bringing the case against him. If others are involved in wrong doing, isn't that another case? Just think what would happen across the nation if every one on trial began to dig up dirt on the prosecutor, the judges and the cops to use as their defense ! Would such tactics be allowed in the courts if non politicians tried to use them? If the impeachment hearings are to find criminal acts Clinton has been involved in, #4 then why are these investigations (of those bringing the case against Clinton) being made a part of the case against Clinton? #5 If those parties bringing the case against Clinton are guilty of some criminal act then isn't that another court case against them? #6 If those bringing evidence against Clinton are not accused of any criminal acts then (except to hide Clinton's own guilt), why is any investigation of them even considered? INNOCENT BY AN OTHER'S GUILT When one of the members of some party are busted in some filth, they get on tv and say, well look what the people in the other party are guilty of. If a man was being tried for molesting a child and his defense was "Well, Joe Smith sells dope", would he be found innocent because some other guy was committing another crime? #7 When a politician is being investigated for immoral/criminal acts and his party/Lemmings "defends" him by pointing the finger at the filth/criminal acts of another politician, does that "defense" * Prove he is innocent by an other's guilt or * Just prove they are all scum balls? We just saw one politician running for (the senate) murder another politician in Tenn. Because one politician murders another, does that make murder legal for all politicians? How did you answer #1 and #2? #8 IF politicians are not obligated under the laws of the land because some other politician has committed another (or the same) crime, then tell me how any politician can be held accountable to the law? "OVER TURNING THE ELECTION" We are told that Clinton can not be impeached because it will over turn the public elections? #9 If elected politicians can not be removed by impeachment "because it will over turn public elections, then tell me why impeachment is not unconstitutional? #10 If politicians can not be removed by impeachment because it "will over turn public elections" then how has the impeachment of any elected official been carried out? #11 Impeachment is the legal process of our laws enacted for the purpose of removing corrupt ELECTED POLITICIANS from office... true or false? #12 Is there one set of laws for all other elected officials who has been put through the impeachment process and another set of laws for Clinton? "DEMOCRATIC PROCESS" In campaigns and speeches they are always throwing around the words democratic process and democracy. The words are synonymous. The democratic process/democracy is the process in which the end results is the majority of the people decide the issues. Every politician/news reporter who asserts we have a democratic process/democracy, is either ignorant of the word or they are just bald face liars. Politicians use these terms to make ignorant Americans believe they are in control of their own government. "MOB RULE" When talking about a democracy the press and politicians call it mob rule. They list reasons why the masses can not make their own decisions and why we need to have politicians make our decisions for us. #13 IF America were a democracy (the majority of the people decided laws), then which should dictate the laws of the land ... the will of the people collected in opinion polls or the will of the people decided in election booths? RULED BY LAW NOT BY THE MOB When the will of the majority contradicts the laws set down by the politicians, we are told this is A NATION RULED BY LAW NOT A DEMOCRACY! #14 If this is not a democracy, if this is a nation ruled by law and not public opinion, then what bearing does public polls have on the decisions of the senate/congress on the impeachment of Bill Clinton? In Colorado the majority of the people (in an election) voted against special rights for homosexuals. IN SPITE OF THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY, a judge over turned their decision "because the law took precedence over the will of the majority." Each crime is defined (along with the sentence) in the law books. #15 Now that Clinton has been exposed in criminal acts, does "mob rule" ... from opinion polls, take precedence over the laws of the land? #16 If the will of the majority people ... (documented in a legal election in Colorado's homosexual issue) is over turned "because the law takes precedence" then how does the will of the majority (taken in opinion polls) take precedence over the laws of the land? #17 Which matters under the laws of our government (a) the will of the people recorded in public opinion polls or (b) the senators/congressmen keeping their oath and executing all laws, including those which punish criminal politicians? A criminal act is easy to identify. If the government sends people to arrest you, if one is fined and/or jailed for some act it is a criminal act. If others have been fined and/or jailed for doing the same thing Clinton has done, then Clinton is guilty of committing criminal acts. #18 If Clinton has committed the same criminal acts as others and any congressman/senator does not enforce the laws of the land, that senator/congressman is: * a loyal servant to his office * neglecting to do his duty * protecting a criminal * Give your own reason why any senator/congressman would mock the laws they swore to uphold. EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL Unless there is one law for the people and another law for the politicians ... If the intent of our government is equal justice for all #19 Will the government compensate every one in America who has ever been fined for perjury? #20 If the president of the United States is not prosecuted for perjury, will you vote to release every imprisoned person who is there for perjury? #21 If the president of the United States does not have to testify to the truth in a court, then how soon will the senate/congress remove all laws which hold fines/imprisonment for with holding evidence and "obstructing justice"? #22 If the president of the United States can lie under oath, then why should any citizen (in trial) of the nation be prosecuted for telling the judge they will not tell the truth? #23 If the president of the United States does not get the same punishment as others in jail (for committing the same crimes)... And if Clinton is not above the law/our king or our dictator... then why can't lawyers sue the government for discrimination against non-politicians and win? IMPEACHMENT DETERMINED BY OPINION POLLS Since when has the senate/congress made their decisions by public opinion? If the senate/congress makes their decisions by the opinion of the majority of the American people, then how was NAFTA/GATT put into effect? If the senate/congress is going to make their decision on public polls, then let's ask the American people their opinion on politician giving themselves raises, politicians taking gifts and trips .... #24 Mr. senator/congressman, if you are going to decide Clinton's fate based on opinion polls instead of the law, then will you agree to vote on all issues in agreement with the will of the people taken in public polls ... or do public polls only take precedence over the law when it comes to protecting criminals in your political party? #25 Mr. senator/congressman, is there any clause in the laws that politicians are allowed to commit criminal acts with out prosecution as long as they claim they are responsible for a good economy? #26 Mr. senator/congressman, by the standards of your own morality, do you believe that corrupt politicians should be able to commit criminal acts with out prosecution (as long as they are responsible for a good economy)? In all countries and in all organizations there will be criminals and perverts. The decent people of those governments/organizations have no blame in what the perverts do. The police force is not to be blamed because there are corrupt cops nor is the Catholic church to be blamed because child molesters have crept into their organization. The organization has no guilt UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THEY COLLABORATE TO SCHEME TO COVER UP AND/OR PROTECT THE FILTH IN THEIR RANKS. When the innocent of any organization/government begins to cover up for the guilty, then the whole group enters into the corruption of the criminals/perverts they are protecting. The government of the United States is not corrupt because there are corrupt politicians in it. The government of the United States is corrupt because when criminal/immoral politicians are found the rest of their political clicque enters into a scheme to cover their immoral/criminal acts and protect them from the laws they impose on the rest of us. The shame of America to the world is not that any politician would be impeached or imprisoned. The shame of America to themselves and the world is that criminal/perverted politicians are protected by our corrupt government. Yes, America is a land of mob rule, but it is not the mob/people who rules our nation. It is the mob bosses in our government which rules by corruption and cover up of their own criminal partners. What nation has honor, a nation in which corrupt politicians circumvent the laws of the land and mock the oath they took to uphold those laws ... or a nation in which politicians uphold the laws they swore to serve? #27 Does America have anything to be ashamed of because there are corrupt politicians in our government (as there are in all governments) or does America deserve shame because our government is infested with corrupt politicians who cover up and protect their criminal partners? "NOT FAIR TO THE PRESIDENT" "This is not fair to the president"? What the party mob defines as fair is one law for their criminal members and another law for the American people. #28 If there are non politicians convicted as criminals/felons for doing the same things Clinton has done, then explain to us why Bill Clinton is not a criminal/felon? Nov. 6, 1998 Date Line (tv news program) It was reported that the reason why perjury is not always prosecuted is because it is hard to prove. This is especially true in cases about sex (with he says/she says) a) When there is clear cut proof/a record to prove perjury beyond a doubt people are charged with the crime. b) A government employee (Barba Battalino) had oral sex with one of her patients 3 times. c) In court the woman lied under oath. d) There was a record/proof (a phone tape) that she was lying under oath. e) For lying about sex under oath, the woman has become a felon, she got a suspended prison sentence, she was found guilty of obstruction of justice, she lost her government job and she is now under house arrest for 6 months with an electronic monitor strapped to her leg. aa) There is a clear cut record that Clinton lied under oath (the dress stain) bb) The public employee Clinton used his government position to get oral sex in a government office. cc) Under oath Clinton lied. dd) Clinton's sperm dna is the proof/record that he lied. ee) What will be the sentence of this criminal? * Impeachment * Charged as a felon * A prison sentence * Charged with obstruction of justice * Lose his government job? * An electronic monitor strapped to his leg and placed under house arrest? The woman in this case was involved in oral SEX, and if oral SEX is not SEX then how did the court convict this woman for denying she had SEX under oath? #29 As a representative of the American people ... as a senator/congressman who took an oath to uphold the law, will you allow a liar/felon/criminal to retain the office of the president of the United States? The only thing different in laws and morality is that politicians force their "morality" on others by the threat of taking their wealth, arrest, jail, death and/or other means of intimidation. #30 Tell me Mr. congressman/senator, how you have the gall to circumvent the laws of this nation in your protection of criminal politicians. Tell me how it is that you support the destruction and killing of helpless/innocent Iraqis and yet you protect the White House CRIMINAL who is ready to send weapons of death to kill the innocent... BECAUSE YOUR LAWS ARE NOT OBEYED ! Congressman/Senator's signature _____________________________________ *** Now I hear Clinton is not a felon because he has not been convicted. People have lied in court and have not even been caught, does that mean they are not perjurers? The law books give definitions of the acts to make one a felon. Robbery, perjury, rape or murder ... all are defined. No where in those definitions is there one clause which states one must be caught or tried to meet that specification. All such crimes are defined by some one committing a specific act. People have gotten away with bank robbery, does that mean they are not a bank robber (by the definitions specified in the law books)? If someone is not caught in a murder or tried for it, does that mean they are not a murderer? By the definitions of the law books, Bill Clinton is a felon. By the evidence, Clinton is a felon. The fact that he has not nor will ever be tried for his criminal act does not change the fact that he is a felon. It only proves that those congressmen/senators have jumped in bed with him. *** Criminal Law vs Impeachment Impeachment is the process to remove corrupt politicians from office. Criminal law is the process where by citizens are imprisoned, fined and/or killed for their transgressions of some law. Many politicians and/or government workers have been found guilty of breaking the law and have been fined and/or imprisoned. Politicians and non politicians are all held accountable under criminal law. Right now there are a lot of doings about the process of impeachment and yet I have heard Nothing about Clinton being charged under the criminal statutes! CLINTON NOT UNDER CRIMINAL LAW? #1 If any regular citizen were found guilty of doing the same things as Clinton, what penalty is written under criminal law? #2 Other elected politicians have been tried and convicted under criminal law. How is Clinton any better than any other politicians or how is he better than any other citizen? #3 Will Clinton be charged for his criminal acts or is he above the laws other politicians and citizens have been fined and imprisoned by? #4 There is nothing in the law that states that an elected politician can not be charged with a crime until they have served their term ... IN FACT many politicians have been tried and convicted of crimes while their term still existed. Tell me why Clinton is better than any other elected politician ... Why wasn't Clinton charged with the criminal statues in the very week that he was documented to be a perjurer? *** The politicians keep on saying a president can not be charged of a crime while he is in office? Well I cannot find it written in any laws nor can those I have asked. Show us where this is written Mr. Politician? ============================================== Shame/injustice of the American government does not exist because there are some criminal politicians. The shame/injustice of the American government exists because the corrupt government officials protect their criminal partners. #5 (In addition to the impeachment process to remove corrupt politicians), why hasn't the court CHARGED Bill Clinton UNDER the same CRIMINAL LAWS that apply to every other citizen? *** Upload this file to the internet, treat it like a chain letter. The fact that many politicians will refuse to answer the questions is proof of they are part accessories in Clinton's cover up. Refer to this list of questions as the Pinocchio report. Every time you see any senator/congressman out in public ask him/her have they/will they respond to the questions of the Pinocchio report. (have a copy with you). =============================================== Mr politician Clinton crack licker, will you take a lie detector test and answer the questions: #1 Would you vote to impeach clinton if you did not belong to his party? #2 Would you follow the law to impeach Clinton if you knew it would not get in the way of your personal agenda to hold power? Of course you won't. ============================================== As for those who read this letter, I am not stupid enough to think that anything I say will shame the politicians into honesty. They are lying criminals and they know it. They also know there ain't a damn thing the American people can do about it because the only people who has the power to bring them to justice are other scum bag politicians who are covering up for each other. ============================================= Obstruction of Justice? First justice must be defined... #1 Justice begins with the implementation of some law. #2 After some law has been established, the next step is gathering information on those accused of breaking these laws. #3 The next process is to try those accused #4 and if found guilty, it is the duty of law officers to dictate the punishment prescribed by that law. Impeachment is the law that deals with criminal politicians. Congress/the senate are the law officers responsible for implementing justice on this matter. IF Clinton is guilty of crimes specified under the laws of impeachment and congress/the senate does not apply the penalties specified under the law, they have obstructed justice... They are but criminals themselves. ============================================== High Crimes? Under state laws, there are misdemeanors and felonies. Felonies come in different degrees 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Under state laws, the lowest crimes are misdemeanors and the highest crime is a first degree felony. Under federal crimes, there are only two categories, the low crime of a misdemeanor and the high crime of a felony. High crime as opposed to what? High crime as opposed to a low crime. Under federal law, perjury is a high crime. ================================================ I heard some of the politicians say they were going to vote their conscience? When they took their oath of office (a verbal contract) they did not agree to "vote their conscience", they took an oath to uphold the laws of the land. The laws of the land stipulate that politicians committing high crimes are to be impeached ! By protecting their fellow crooks, they make themselves accessories to their crimes. They are guilty of obstruction of justice and breech of contract ! ============================================== Yes America is under mob rule and the two mob families are the REPUBLICAN & DEMOCRAT CRIME FAMILIES. They are not criminals because of what others do, they are a mob because they enter into other's corruption by harboring and protecting criminals. DRAFT DODGERS SENT TO PRISON Tell me why draft dodgers are branded as criminals when our nation is in battle, but other draft dodgers are allowed to call themselves president? Tell me why our military people risk their lives, die and/or live through terror so a draft dodger politician can be photographed giving "honor" to those who gave their lives? SEPARATION IN CHURCH & STATE If a teacher or student began talking about God or prayer on public property, the ACLU would slap on a law suit before you could blink. Tell me why Clinton can sit in the oval office (in his official capacity) and talk about God and prayer when he gets caught with his pants down? Just before our last election, Clinton got on Air Force One and went to a black church to campaign for his political clicque. It must cost the tax payers thousands of dollars for police protection when such a big politician comes to town... so tell me (with all this "separation of church and state") how the state/tax payers are forced to pay tens of thousands of dollars so politicians can go to a church to combine the church in the business of the government? DWI, HIT SKIP & CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON What happened to the "safety director" in Columbus Ohio who was busted for drunk driving, hit skip and carrying a concealed weapon? Where are other non politicians who were caught for the very same crimes? POSSESSION OF CRACK COCAINE How is it that non politicians are put in jail and branded as criminals for having crack, but when a politician in Washington D.C. is caught with crack (he is not branded a criminal), he is called a public servant? PROSTITUTION After Heidi Fleiss was found running a prostitution ring, she was branded a criminal who was sent to prison, but when a homosexual prostitution ring is ran out of a politician's home, that homosexual is not branded a criminal, he is called a senator of the United States. SEX WITH UNDER AGE CHILDREN I have been watching the arrest and conviction of gobs of men for having sex with underage kids on tv... but what happened to Jerry Studs (a congressman of the United states) who had sex with an under age male page? Maybe senator Kennedy will vote to impeach Clinton? (Remember the black boxer who went to prison for rape just on the word of a woman?) Well, when one of Kennedy's nephews was accused of rape (with physical evidence), the word of a woman is worthless against politician's clicque. When one of the Kennedys was busted for sex with an under age baby sitter, why wasn't he convicted of rape? If I remember "senator Kennedy" drove a woman off a bridge and killed her... Gee, there wasn't even an autopsy? Party mob bosses enacting the laws to prosecute their criminal family members? giggle, giggle. ============================================= Now what do you think would happen to any man who got Clinton's daughter in a room alone, grabbed her by the crotch and pulled out his ... for her to suck? Mr. Reporter, the next time you get to interview Hillary Clinton ask her what she would reccomend for any man who pulled his .... out for her daughter to suck. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If this gets to someone who does not have to pay a long distance call in DC, fax a copy to Henry Hyde 202-225-7682. If your congressman or senator is a local call, ask for their fax number and send them a copy. . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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