-Caveat Lector-
You've made yourself a topic of discussion Wes. So I suggest you not
harass me again by whining to my ISP webmaster.
FWP.
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:30:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of
the Plan...
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, James Horak wrote:
> From: James Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > In a message dated 1/29/99 7:55:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > << Is Wes just a prawn of The Establishment (see subsequent postings) or is
> > >he a CIA/NSA flunky (or both)? >>
> >
> > Wes allowed several of us to be harrassed into arguing back and thence
> > "kicked out" of his MC-list. It was somehow connected to the KK crowd.
> >
>
> Exactly. JCH
The broader issue here is how the internet could be used for mind control
even on a global scale. Someone else asked off-list for more detail on
that TV movie which will be shown here on Rogers Cable on that theme.
Sorry-I didn't get the title down. All I have is that it is explicitly on
the theme of conspirators using internet to control the planet, Monday at
9:00 PM in Vancouver on Channel 8. Rogers might tell you more via
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Now I'm not saying Wes Thomas IS such a conspirator but his moderating
"style" has certainly left some of us wondering if he couldn't be used at
least as a case study in how this might be done via discussion lists.
He has trotted out all the usual lines to defend his restrictions on
discussion, eg (1) these lists are MY private property and I'll do what I
want; (2) what I don't like is "off topic"; (3) if you challenge or
question that you are "threatening" me and you are "flaming" me; (4) if
you bring this up on other lists where I (Wes) am an ordinary subscriber
you are "spamming" and violating "netiquette". Finally he has complained
to my webmaster knowing that there are local politics in ISP services and
he might well put a stop to any exposure of what he is up to by getting
ISP service discontinued.
Of course list ownership is a reality and netiquette and spamming are
realities. But the issue is how these things could be put forward to
carefully regulate discussion on the internet and a substantial part of
human thinking, attitudes and opinions. Could the mindcontrol agencies
like CIA/NSA etc. use a Wes Thomas in this way? Definitely. Consider that
the three lists I have been on all cover topics of great military
significance: Mind Control; Electronic Warfare and Biowarfare. Now,
sometimes I can be off topic like anyone else and I have moderated a half
dozen lists so I know that you have to "call" people for being off topic.
But I was first called for being off-topic on Biowar when I said that the
religious issues and Biblical references in connection with them were
crucial in understanding what might motivate biowar. Indeed that got me
turfed off. It is most emphatically NOT off topic. But it is a very
"sensitive" as well as important issue-the kind that CIA/NSA types want to
keep in THEIR control and do not want us unwashed masses to deal with.
Also what about the "Green Conspiracy" which I posted to Thomas'
Mindcontrol list and which was called off-topic? I was asked on
snetnews/l&j what my references were for saying that one-third of the
planet had been mapped by the ultra-rich for wilderness set-asides as sort
of a "private country" of huge proportions. Good question: always get
those facts shored up. The kind of facts that the mind contollers don't
want you to have.
I had to go back a decade in my notes for this. In the late 1980's a
Colorado businessman/activist named George Hunt lectured in Vancouver. He
had been a host at the "Fourth World Wilderness Conference" in Boulder in
1987. The Green billionaires of the planet were there: Rockefellers,
Rothschilds etc. Hunt had the tapes and literature including their map of
the planet with 1/3 of its area in wilderness set asides. Hunt's address
then was 95 camino Bosque, Boulder, Co. 80302. You can get similar
information from the LaRouchies and aside from their prone-ness to
unsubstantiated exaggeration I think they have this one right. I asked
Hunt about his connection to the LaRouchies and in general he seemed to be
mildly anatagonistic to them so they are not from the same choir.
Think of it-if you are in a small clique which controls 1/3 of the planet
and all its wealth you have created a new country with greater wealth by
far than any other. Even Kruchkov, former KGB Chief (before he went nuts
and attacked Yeltysn and the new order) said the Green movement would be
the next dominant ideological theme on the planet. What better way to
seize control over 1/3 of the land on earth than by using a "motherhood"
ideology like Green activism? Off topic? Is Wes Thomas a useful idiot to
these people unknowingly or is he a paid agent? Paid again to keep the
really important topics which the New World Order doesn't want discussed,
OFF THE LISTS. Ditto for the "artificial life" issue which Wes ruled off
topic. Look, I have a doctorate in behaviour genetics and I am on the
Human Genome list. This list is now talking about how geneticists are
seriously trying to create living creatures from non-living molecules.
Why wouldn't I link that to crystals and the creation of a new generation
of robots/intelligent machines which have awesome powers? Not "Robo-cop"
yet, but certainly "Robo-pope" is within current technological
capabilities. Robo-pope could be programmed as long as the dogmas and
catechism (religious questions and answers) remain so clearly defined.
OK, so Wes couldn't really defend his "off topic" position. His lists
read like the Aum Cult's fantasy religion and that is exactly what the
mind controllers want to limit your thinking to. So Wes had to go for the
old "list as private property" pitch. Too bad he also put himself on other
lists where general current affairs are discussed like snetnews and
CTRL. Confronting him on these lists led to the next stage in defense....
You are "harassing" me he said. What harassment? Is it harassment to ask
such reasonable questions about how the internet COULD be used by
unscrupulous mind controllers?
FWP.
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