-Caveat Lector-
I would be curious about what you think of this.
http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/EducationReligionandPropoganda.htm
Laura
AKA The Pied Piper
http://members.xoom.com/ThePiedPiper/Intro2.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Hendrickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Traditions and Doctrines
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>Hello Lyn,
> I only wanted to ask you if the posting is what you believe. I know many
>people who I discuss various myths and the website you mentioned is one of
>them. But if you favor the info as closer to the truth than what the bible
>has offered, that is of course your free choice. I never had a problem
>believing the bible, only because I believe in God. I do believe God is
>able to preserve His word to man through this book which has been long
>argued over. Perhaps we can discuss further this most interesting and more
>over, important topic. I would look forward to the opportunity, if you are
>open for such.
>Harry
>
>----------
>> From: Lyn McCloskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: [CTRL] Traditions and Doctrines
>> Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:55 AM
>>
>> -Caveat Lector-
>>
>> My posting this article does not necessarily imply either an endorsement
>of
>> or a disagreement with its contents, but I do think it's very
>interesting.
>>
>> Truth is not some cheap thing and therefore, whatever it is, it's most
>> likely NOT what we have been spoon-fed our entire life by giant
>hierarchies
>> of control (a.k.a. government, religion, media). What's the difference
>> between what you believe, and what you know?
>>
>> Caution: May cause profound cognitive dissonance :)
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> from http://www.hiddenmeanings.com
>>
>> TRADITIONS AND DOCTRINES
>>
>> The things that we have always accepted as doctrine and have incorporated
>> into our way of life as tradition, my in fact mean something quite
>> different then we have been led to believe. Take a look at some of these
>> things that have become traditions to us and see where we may have
>actually
>> overlooked a healing truth by taking these things literally at the
>> insistence of our religious teachers. See what you think.
>>
>> INDEX
>> WHY IS BAPTISM WRONG ?
>> HOLY COMMUNION BEGAN AS CANNIBALISM
>> CIRCUMCISION, WHY IS IT IN THE BIBLE ?
>> WHY WAS CIRCUMCISION REQUIRED IN THE BIBLE
>> CHRISTIANITY DISAGREES WITH THE BIBLE
>> EATING PORK
>> THE KING WHO KILLED THE LITTLE CHILDREN
>> BORN AGAIN
>> THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY, A DYING EVIL ?
>> WAS OUR LADY OF FATIMA, A MUSLIM ?
>> HELL IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY RELIGION
>> CULTS AND CULT LEADERS
>> ARE SATAN & GOD THE SAME PERSON ?
>> WHY WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED ?
>> WHY WAS JESUS BETRAYED FOR 30 PIECES OF SILVER ?
>> KARMA
>> BLOW THE SHOFAR
>> BACK TO INDEX
>> TO MASTER INDEX
>> BACK TO HOME PAGE
>>
>>
>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH BAPTISM ?
>>
>> What's wrong with Baptism is the problem that the Bible itself realized
>and
>> thus warned us against it. We fail to understand it's true meaning. We
>thus
>> dip our head in water and think we are pleasing some God. God becomes
>> excited because our head is wet.? Isn't that silly.?
>>
>> In Hebrews 6:1 the Bible admonishes us to get away from Baptism. The
>reason
>> is because by taking the symbol literally we miss the power of real
>> Baptism. In Greek there are 5 stages of consciousness. The lowest which
>is
>> the lower mind is Earth, the next which is meditation is Water, the third
>> which is the separation from thought is Air, the fourth which is the
>> encounter with God is fire and the 5th is the new mind.
>>
>> Thus true Baptism is taking the Earth (head), into the water (meditation)
>> rising into the air (separating from thought), being touched by fire
>(God)
>> and receiving a new mind. This is the Baptism that Christianity knows
>> nothing about and why the Bible told them to stop. Notice the third stage
>> is Air. That is why the Bible says we will rise and meet Jesus in the
>Air.
>> In Consciousness !
>>
>> So would true Baptism be the renewing of the mind by raising ones
>> consciousness or getting ones head wet ?
>>
>>
>> HOLY COMMUNION
>>
>> Before the time of Osiris the tribes took Holy Communion in a very
>special
>> way. The wisest person in the tribe was sacrificed for the common good.
>> After the person was killed, the tribe ate him/her.
>>
>> They believed that by eating the flesh and blood of the wisest person,
>they
>> would become wise too. The advent of Osiris is credited with having ended
>> communion in the form of cannibalism. Osiris was believed to rise from
>> death in the form of wheat. They would make bread from the wheat and beer
>> from the barley. Thus taking the flesh and blood of Osiris was by taking
>> the bread and the beer.
>>
>> When this spread to Greece the God Osiris was replaced by the Greek God
>> Dionysus who was the God of wine. Thus taking the flesh and blood of God
>in
>> communion was by taking the bread and wine which continues to this day.
>> Of course we know that the New Testament was written in Greek. Now may we
>> better understand the origin of the words of Jesus in John 6:53 Then
>Jesus
>> said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh
>of
>> the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
>>
>>
>> CIRCUMCISION
>>
>> There is a great deal of debate over the physical aspects of circumcision
>> Regardless of the medical value, we must again fall back on 1 Cor 15:50
>in
>> realizing that flesh and blood have no part in Gods Kingdom, which leaves
>> us to seek a deeper spiritual meaning to circumcision . Mystically the
>> lower part of the body representing the sexual area was always used in
>the
>> Bible to symbolize desire. (this for obvious reasons.)
>>
>> If you will look at Genesis 32:25 you will see that the angel of God put
>> Jacobs thigh out and it was then that Jacob was delivered out of his
>> problem. His problem was depending on his own desires instead of trusting
>> to God. The thigh again representative of desire.
>>
>> As Jesus teaches us to pray in Matthew 6, he tells us to enter the closet
>> and close the door. This means to separate ourselves from the desires of
>> the carnal mind. Five times in Matthew 6 Jesus says to "take no thought".
>> Again it is the eliminating of carnal thought in prayer.
>>
>> This is referred to as "circumcision of the heart" Namely cutting away
>the
>> desires of the flesh or the thoughts of our carnal mind. In Romans 2:29
>> Paul says, "but he is a Jew which is one inwardly and circumcision is
>that
>> of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter whose praise is not of
>> men but of God.
>>
>> Thus in prayer when you cut away the thoughts of the carnal mind which is
>> full of desires for your own well being, you have circumcised the heart
>or
>> inner being and been made clean and pure apart from the flesh which
>simply
>> put is human desire.
>>
>>
>> CIRCUMCISION REQUIRED
>>
>> Why did the Bible require circumcision ?
>>
>> It has nothing to do with the physical body. The lower part of the body
>> representing the sexual area was always used in the Bible to symbolize
>> desire. Cutting away the area of desire was a symbol of separating from
>the
>> thoughts of the flesh in mediation. By physically circumcising one misses
>> the true circumcision which is cutting away desire in meditation above
>the
>> thoughts of the mind.
>>
>>
>> CHRISTIAN TEACHINGS DISAGREE WITH THE BIBLE
>>
>> It is very curious how Christian teachings which admonish us to follow
>the
>> Bible, actually disagree with the Bible in many ways. Here are just a few
>> examples.
>> CHRISTIAN TEACHING: Jesus is coming again to be seen.
>>
>> THE BIBLE: Luke 17:20, The Kingdom comes not with observation. The
>kingdom
>> of God is within you.
>>
>> CHRISTIAN TEACHING: You must ask Jesus to come into your heart.
>>
>> THE BIBLE: Jesus says in John 16:23, " At that time you shall ask me
>> nothing.
>>
>> CHRISTIAN TEACHING: Jesus will intercede to the father for you.
>>
>> THE BIBLE: In John 16:26 Jesus says, " I say not that I will pray the
>> father for you.
>> CHRISTIAN TEACHING; Jesus can do all things.
>>
>> THE BIBLE: Jesus says in John 5:30, " Of my own self, I can do nothing".
>>
>> CHRISTIAN TEACHING: You must have faith in God, you must be baptized, and
>> you will face eternal judgment.
>>
>> THE BIBLE: In Hebrews 6:1 it says, get away from faith in God, get away
>> from the doctrine of Baptism and of eternal judgement.
>>
>> FINALLY...
>>
>> CHRISTIAN TEACHING: We are all worthless sinners.
>>
>> THE BIBLE: Matthew 5:14 Jesus says, " You are the light of the world".
>>
>>
>> EATING PORK
>>
>> Many religious people are admonished not to eat pork because it is so
>> written in the Bible. Well consider Gods true concern. Is it what you
>eat.,
>> or is it what you think. The pig is a symbol of the lower mind because it
>> loves to roll in the mud. Not eating pork is a symbol of not consuming
>the
>> lower flesh which is the carnal mind of emotions and feelings. God is
>> saying you are to seek the higher mind in meditation and not consume the
>> lower, which is the pig. Oink Oink. So when you are meditating and
>> separating from thought, you are abstaining from pork.
>>
>>
>> JESUS, ZEUS, KRISHNA AND THE WICKED KING
>>
>> We all know the Christmas story of how King Herod was afraid that the
>child
>> being born Jesus) would try and overthrow his Kingdom ,so he had the
>little
>> children killed and Jesus was taken by Joseph and Mary to Egypt to hide
>> until the threat was gone. How many of us have heard the story of the
>> Nativity of Hare Krishna. In that story the wicked king Kansa has the
>same
>> fear of the birth as did Herod and kills the children. Little Hare
>Krishna
>> was taken away by Vasudeva to hide from Kansa. As Vasudeva carried the
>> child, Lord Sesa in the shape of a serpent spread his hood over them to
>> protect them from the storm. Two kings who are afraid that the child God
>> would overthrow them forcing the child to be taken away to hide.
>>
>> Where does this story come from ? Consider. Cronus (Time) intercourse's
>> with Rhea. As she is about to give birth, Cronus fears that one of the
>> children will try to overthrow him, so he devours each one. Rhea protects
>> Zeus. When Zeus is born she wraps a stone in swaddling clothes and Cronus
>> swallows that. Zeus is then taken away to Crete and placed in hiding
>until
>> the threat is gone. So you see the origin of the Christmas story and the
>> Krishna story. It is all cosmological. In other words, as above, so
>below.
>> Soon we will see the meaning of the story in the sky.
>>
>> By the way, Cronus is Saturn or Satan. Zeus grew up and overthrew Cronus/
>> Satan. Jesus grew up and overthrew Satan. Krishna grew up and killed
>Kansa
>> /Satan.. Now when will we all grow up and understand ?
>>
>>
>> BORN AGAIN
>>
>> There are many statements in the Bible that are completely contrary to
>the
>> teachings of mainline Christianity. Even the question of being born again
>> which Christianity takes as a great accomplishment is nothing more then a
>> necessity for we who have not as yet risen to the higher realms. Looking
>at
>> Nicodemus with all of his religious training, all of his man made beliefs
>> and allegiances to religion, Jesus answered his inquiry concerning
>> salvation quite plainly, " No way man, there is no way that you will find
>> it in this life. you are too filled with your old traditions and beliefs.
>> You must be born again. Born again to be free of all religion and to find
>> the universal oneness of life within.
>>
>>
>> THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY, A DYING EVIL ??
>>
>> Everyone is concerned about the breakup of the traditional family. The
>> results are obvious. Violence in the streets and a general breakdown in
>> morality. But the question goes unanswered , why has the traditional
>family
>> broken down? Could it be that it was programmed to fail from the
>beginning
>> ?
>>
>> We all know that the Bible is a book of symbols. The stories are symbolic
>> and given to convey a deep spiritual truth. However when people take the
>> words literally and begin to abuse others based on these symbolic
>> references, what is the result.?
>>
>> For instance let us look at some Biblical statements that are directly
>> responsible for the breakup of the traditional family because they have
>> been taken literally by fundamental religious groups.
>>
>> Genesis 3:16 Your desire shall be to your husband and he shall rule over
>> you.
>> Ephesians 5:23 The husband is the head of the wife
>> 1 Corinthians 11:3 The head of the woman is the man
>> 1 Corinthians 11:8 The man is not of the woman but the woman of the man.
>> Neither was man created for the woman but the woman for the man.
>>
>> What is being discussed here is the emotional nature (woman/wife)
>> submitting to the renewed mind (man/husband). But fundamental religion
>has
>> taken this literally and instituted marriage with a basic flaw. The
>female
>> had to submit to the male. This basic flaw guaranteed the eventual
>> destruction of the traditional family. The evolution process brought
>woman
>> to a point of refusal. Woman will never again submit to man. Thus the
>> traditional family is history.
>>
>> The family unit will be restored only when the religious demands that
>make
>> woman less then man are refuted and marriage becomes a co-partnership of
>> two equals.
>>
>> When one part of the human species is declared less then the other simply
>> because of gender there is an evil. When this evil is the basis of the
>> family, then the family is evil. As Jesus said, "wisdom is justified by
>her
>> children". In other words what is the result of your creation. The family
>> is broken because it was founded on an evil basis of inequality.
>>
>>
>> OUR LADY OF FATIMA
>>
>> Did you know that prior to becoming a Holy Place to Catholics in honor of
>> Our Lady of Fatima, the shrine in Portugal was a holy place to Muslims
>who
>> used to make pilgrimages there in honor of Muhammeds daughter Fatima. So
>> then, who really is Our Lady Of Fatima.
>>
>>
>> HELL
>>
>> Religion has taught us that Hell is a place of eternal punishment. Once
>in
>> Hell there is no escape. Of course this superstition was invented by
>> religion for one purpose and one purpose only, to subject it's followers
>to
>> fear and create a dependency that will insure it's continued existence.
>>
>> The very Bible that religion claims is without error is very clear that
>> Hell is a state of consciousness and it is possible to leave Hell via
>> meditation. In other words, the Bible itself indicts religion as a lie.
>>
>> Here is the scripture ,Proverbs 15:24 The way of life is above to the
>wise,
>> that he may depart from hell beneath.
>>
>> CASE CLOSED
>>
>>
>> CULTS AND CULT LEADERS:
>>
>> Where do cult leaders get their training. ? Consider the recent crop of
>> cult leaders. Jim Jones, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite. Not one of
>them
>> was new age, not one of them was Eastern in orientation.
>>
>> No sir. Jim Jones was a Christian Evangelist, David Koresh was a
>Christian
>> Bible Teacher, and Marshall Applewhite was a Christian Minister.
>>
>> This is the result of teaching the Bible literally to disturbed minds.
>> Flying up to meet God in the air is a fundamental religious teaching.
>When
>> taken literally look at the results. We must consider all cults as
>> dangerous, even those that form the basis of our traditional society.
>>
>> When people lose the ability to think for themselves without the leading
>of
>> the group, we all become less secure.
>>
>>
>> ARE SATAN AND GOD THE SAME PERSON ?
>>
>> As we begin to think, free from guilt, and open to all inquiry, comes a
>> very interesting possibility. Could it be that Satan and God are one in
>the
>> same ?. Now that's enough to send our fundamentalist friends running for
>> their stones isn't it.?
>>
>> But let's try to understand nature and it's laws, understand mind and
>it's
>> thoughts, understand life and it's needs. Within that framework of
>thinking
>> we will find a whole new world of possibilities.
>>
>> First let's look at scripture for evidence. Numbers 21:8, God tells Moses
>> to make a serpent and put it on a pole so that the people will be healed
>> when they look at it. Moses obediently makes a serpent of brass.
>>
>> 2nd Kings 18:4, Hezekiah (who did what was right in the sight of God),
>> broke the serpent of brass in obedience to God. Now remember, Hezekiah is
>> receiving instructions to break the serpent of brass that God told Moses
>to
>> make.
>>
>> Let's look at something else interesting. 1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan
>stood
>> up and provoked David to number Israel. David did it and then repented
>for
>> sinning against God.
>>
>> 2nd Samuel 24:1 The anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel and he
>> told David, "Go number Israel". Interesting ?, Satan and God are speaking
>> and giving the same directions to David, Same voice, same rules, Same
>> person ?
>>
>> One More
>>
>> Job 1:6 The Sons of God appear before God and Satan is there. Satan is
>the
>> only one that God talks to in this drama. He instructs him to test Job.
>He
>> entrusts Satan with everything in the world that Job owns.
>>
>> NOTICE: GOD DID NOT TRUST MINISTERS OR PRIESTS OR RABBIS WITH EVERYTHING
>> JOB OWNED, HE TRUSTED SATAN.
>>
>> So what's it all about.?
>>
>> Satan is not a person. Satan is a necessary force that is negative but
>> absolutely essential to sustain life. In electricity there must be a
>> positive and a negative.
>> Without the negative there is no electricity and without electricity
>there
>> is no light.
>>
>> Helena Blavatsky : said this , " There is in matter a blind force which
>> resists the will of creation. This blind force under Christian influence
>> was transformed into Satan."
>>
>> Blavatsky states that this natural force which makes life exist is used
>by
>> Christianity to promote fear.
>>
>> Too much sun and a tiny flower will die, too much sun and you become
>sick.
>> The same power that gives you life can make you sick.
>>
>> There must be light and there must be darkness, there must be positive
>and
>> there must be negative. It is the power of life, the power of nature.
>>
>> Let us leave this subject with two scriptures. Romans 13:1 "Let every
>soul
>> be subject to the higher powers. For there is no power but of God. The
>> powers that be are ordained of God.
>>
>> Isaiah 45:7 " I form the light and create darkness. I make peace and
>create
>> evil. I the Lord do all these things".
>>
>> We have been taught to fear a person that does not exist instead of
>> understanding a true force of nature that does. Satan is simply an
>> allegorical symbol for the other side of nature. Winter, Night, Storm.
>Not
>> to be feared, but to be understood.
>>
>> Together with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, our religious heritage
>has
>> given us Satan as a person who exists, to take our attention away from
>> ourselves lest we heal ourselves as Jesus instructed. Instead we look to
>> the church to save us from Satan. We look to the church to save us from
>> nature, of which they know nothing.
>>
>> So lift the mask of Satan and you will see the face of God. The creative
>> male and female universal force that has created opposing forces, upon
>> which the universe can exist and we can live.
>>
>>
>> WHY WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED ?
>>
>> At the time of the ancient writing, the Sun dropped to its farthest
>> southern point in the ecliptic and was connected by the ancients to the
>> constellation, The Southern Cross on December 21st, the day when there is
>> more darkness then any other. If it had been eonnected to Taurus , Jesus
>> would have been gored to death by a bull.
>>
>>
>> THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER
>>
>> Why was Jesus betrayed for 30 pieces of silver ?
>>
>> The Greek writers gave numerical value to each God. Number 30 was
>assigned
>> to the God Sin. Sin was the moon God and represented the emotional
>nature.
>> Silver represents the human mind. Thus the emotional nature (30) of the
>> human mind (silver), is what causes us to betray the Christ consciousness
>> for the carnal consciousness.
>>
>>
>> KARMA UNDERSTANDING
>>
>> Before we determine the results of our physical demise it would seem to
>be
>> reasonable to look at the very reason for our existence in the first
>place.
>> That brings up the word that has been getting so much attention in New
>Age
>> Circles, Karma.
>>
>> The general idea is that we are here to work out past misdeeds in order
>to
>> gain in our evolutionary cycle, a place in the realms of higher
>> consciousness. In other words Karma (as it is interpreted for us) says
>that
>> we have to work out some bad stuff before we can go on to the higher
>> places.
>>
>> But wait just a minute. That is not the original meaning of Karma which
>is
>> essentially the Wheel of Life that continues to turn in realms of
>positive
>> and negative on a universal basis. Indeed there are negative things which
>> have infected life from the earliest times, but are these your fault.
>Must
>> you bear the brunt of having to straighten them out.?
>>
>> Consider this. You have 46 chromosomes that are the deposits into your
>> account from every human failure in your family tree from the earliest
>> possible time.
>> When you are born you take these 46 deposits of hell and mix into them
>your
>> family traditions, the instructions of your parents, your church, your
>> school, your friends, your job and the social order you were born in.
>>
>> Neurons are firing in your brain in response to genetics and all of the
>> insanity that has been heaped upon you by all of the surrounding entities
>> listed above.
>> Now given all of this, how can you in any way feel that this is your
>> problem to work out. It's not. It is a universal Karma of tradition and
>> doctrine that must be broken and turned around. All of us must find the
>> place of higher consciousness that we may separate from all of the
>> traditions that have come from the Kings of the Earth and break them.
>>
>> If you take the traditional Karmic viewpoint. What happens when you work
>> hard to break the negative Karma of the past life and then you are born
>> into a new family in the next life who provides you with a Karmic
>tradition
>> that is far worse then your last.
>>
>> You must separate. You must totally turn yourself to the light that you
>may
>> be part of the Kingdom of Light that has no part in the things of the
>> earth. Then and only then can you finally break the thought patterns that
>> have authored what we call Negative Karma.
>>
>> Meditate. Turn off the family, friends, church, government, school, and
>all
>> the rest. Touch the light through the Pineal and you will have broken the
>> Karma that up to this time has broken the world.
>>
>> It is not your fault that you are as you are. But it is your
>responsibility
>> to say, enough and turn away from the darkness to the brightness of the
>> light. You are of the light but you have accepted the illusion which is
>> your family, or your religion, or your nationality.
>>
>> Reject that and become one with the light so you may at the same time
>> become one with all life. Then you will have overcome the Karma which up
>> until this point may truly have overcome you.
>>
>>
>> BLOW THE SHOFAR
>>
>> The Shofar is the Rams Horn which is blown in the temple at Yom Kippur.
>Yom
>> Kippur is the day of At One Ment. It is the point of enlightenment. In
>the
>> human brain the point of memory is the hippocampus. In the hippocampus is
>> an organ called Ammons Horn. Ammon is an Egyptian Deity whose symbol is
>the
>> Ram. Thus Ammons Horn is the Rams Horn or the Shofar.
>>
>> Thus when the energy in the body is raised to the point of the
>hippocampus
>> through meditation, it touches the Rams Horn, Ammons Horn, The Shofar,
>and
>> one becomes enlightened.
>>
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