-Caveat Lector- The issue rests with each and every military member being required to be 'ready' at all times. When entering the services, each and every member is given a battery of shots with scheduled follow-ups as required (e.g., annual 'flu shots). Even dependents who are colocated with sponsors overseas have to have some; I used to get them all (from age 0 {zero} on up). When one takes the oath, there is no disctinction between 'peacetime' and 'wartime'. As a matter of fact, just by reading the news, one can readily see that the military is ALL over the place, more so now than ever before on temporary assignment (Persian Gulf, Bosnia, et cetera). Additionally, we have not been 'not at war' since the "Cold War" started (or possibly since WW2 started; I think there was a couple of years in the latter '40s when there was a deep drawdown). No one can predict from day to day if one will be at home for the foreseeable future. Every day brings new and exciting challenges. This is opposed to the "Cold War" days when the military was fat and in forward positions in Europe or the Phillipines or wherever. In any event, the shots are essential to maintain readiness; a sick soldier, sailor, airman, marine just isn't much use. So as you state: : In WAR TIME a commanding officer has the right, indeed duty to order his men : to do dangerous things that may get the me killed, he may even have to order : them to do something that will virtually certainly get them killed. Therefore : a soldier has no right to go against this since it undermines the command and : nature of armed conflict. This applies to ALL the TIME. As far as a breakdown in authority, there have always been certain elements who have chosen to cross their fingers during the oath, "I'll serve, obey, go, whatever, except for, when, if ..." These people have been known to challenge the gay issue (Meinhart {sp?} et al), the fraternisation issue {Flynn et al}, conscientious objecting, and a host of other issues. These people may have valid points or not; yet, the emphasis is on good order and discipline -- the keys to any effective and realistic fighting force, one that is ready at all times for anything. Trust? Used to be (at least 20 years ago) a myth or legend the officers were taught never to trust enlisted people. Of course, Viet Nam had 'fragging' to give credence to this; I haven't heard of similar practices in current times. I would say, given the situation in the civilian world, many would ask if the sacrifice and privation are really worth it. With the end of the "Cold War", many opportunities to travel and gain new experiences evaporated. When Uncle Sam starts using a full college scholarship as a recruiting tool (compared to various versions of the G.I. Bill and in service tuition assistance), there's an extra effort to attract new recruits/commisionees. The anthrax issue stems from the Gulf War when so many people became mysteriously ill and no ready explanation was available (by design or by accident). The military is in many instances a test base for all kinds of medical procedures. The Civil War brought us heroin; Korea brought us triage and helicopters; Viet Nam its cornucopia. The Gulf War presented a different set of problems, physical, psychological, or a combination thereof. The mechanic will serve as a test base for his issue: Are the shots safe? Effective? Deadly? Useless? Only time (and anthrax attacks) will tell. At any rate, this person will do perhaps a good thing: make an issue out of it and make a personal sacrifice for the benefit of others. Nevertheless, an example will be set, forcing many to make choices: go down the same road or get the shots (and this applies to any other instance of conscientious objection). Sec'y Cohen was reportedly among the first to get the series so he may not have a sympathetic ear. I don't have any pretentions to scholarship on any of these matters; 20+ years of haircuts and shoeshines kinda put the experiential flavour to my knowledge base. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ A<>E<>R The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. ---------- : From: Teo One Thousand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Re: [CTRL] Air Force to court martial mechanic who has refusedanthrax... : Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 10:31 AM : : -Caveat Lector- : : I have an interesting question regarding this issue, that might explain the : military's reasoning on it. I don't necessarily support this view but put it : out there for thought. : In WAR TIME a commanding officer has the right, indeed duty to order his men : to do dangerous things that may get the me killed, he may even have to order : them to do something that will virtually certainly get them killed. Therefore : a soldier has no right to go against this since it undermines the command and : nature of armed conflict. : That might explain the rationale of an army who wants to court-martial men who : refuse thus, BUT we are not at war (or maybe we are and it is just : unacknowledged) we are in PEACETIME, thus the need for orders that are life : threatening is not apparent, so why would someone be compelled to take this : vaccine? : Teo1000 : : DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER : ========== : CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic : screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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