-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/7/99 5:13:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Okay. I like Peter King from NY (R) and I admired Cohen long before he became Sec. of Defense. And I do believe that some D's are probably pond scum despite what they say publicly. Truth is, I don't know everything there is to know about all the Reps and Senators. I only know what I know. Oh, Phil Graham from Tx disagreed with the proposed banking-spy laws, and I agree with him on that. Orrin Hatch, whom I normally despise, doesn't want the FDA regulating alternative health care products because so many of them come from Utah, so I agree with him on that. I do try to keep an open mind and judge people on their actions rather than their parties. But I do have political preferences and lean toward the left rather than toward the Christian Coalition Right. I will admit that I agree with Pat Roberton on at least one thing: we shouldn't lie to our children about Santa Claus because it might undermine their trust in us on other matters. I know this sounds humorous, but I really do believe it. I love JFK, MLK, RFK in hindsight. I also admire Ike in hindsight. I think Truman was really dumb to allow the conversion of the OSS to the CIA and allow them so much financial freedom, but, then again, Truman thought he was dumb to do that, too, in hindsight. I don't care for LBJ -- social programs aside. I identify with "Hey Hey LBJ how many kids did you kill today?" Seemed to me, as a kid in the 60's, the social emphasis was on tolerance, peace and brotherly love. I miss that. Now, the emphasis is on net worth, clean urinalysis, and D.A.R.E. The sixties were much more interesting. The human spirit had a place in the sun then. I have preferences. I don't overlook all of the Kennedy faults. I've never heard a bad word about Maxine Waters. Just don't malign Henry D. Gonzales and I'll be fine. I may have illusions, and I've been accused of being idealistic. There are worse things to be. There are heroes. I do think it's sad that some don't believe that's true. My heroes are JFK, RFK (mostly), MLK, Jim Garrison, John E. Mack, M.D., Lillian Hellman, Charlotte Bronte, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Kurt Vonnegut, Alex Constantine, Maxine Waters, John Conyers, Whitley Streiber, Barbra Streisand, Henry D. Gonzales, Mike Levine (DEA) ... I do try to keep an open mind, Teo, especially since you've challenged me to. Not to anger you, though, but Bill Clinton has earned my admiration simply by standing up to the forces arrayed against him. I admire HIllary for many reasons, yet I read her book , "It Takes a Village" and found her emotionally vacant. I wished to admire her unreservedly and couldn't. I admire Ted Kennedy. You ought to read his speeches sometime (and yes, I know he doesn't write them all.) I even read the book written by his former aide, who told of coke use, etc. and only admired Ted all the more for just being an imperfect human being with high ideals. (The anecdotal evidence of Ted's class came through loud and clear to me.) I admire Joe Sr., even. I simply believe what I believe, while trying hard to keep an open mind. Samantha >> Samantha, truly a response worthy of your intelligence! Thank you. Your list of people you admire has a few people on it in which I would wholeheartedly agree. JFK, MLK, RFK, all of whom were murdered as either examples to NOT be emulated or because they threatened the power structure of the country and had to be eliminated to ensure that people would continue to be fed to the meat grinder. Jim Garrison, John E. Mack, M.D., Lillian Hellman, Charlotte Bronte, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Kurt Vonnegut, Alex Constantine, Maxine Waters, John Conyers, Whitley Streiber, Barbra Streisand, Henry D. Gonzales, Mike Levine (DEA) ... I also am an admirer of Mack, and Jim Garrison for their efforts to find the truth in the face of so much opposition (though Garrison carried a lot of baggage) Kurt Vonnegut, truly an original thinker. Alex Constantine was one of the first people I read in order to get a handle on "conspiracy theory" as such I owe him more than anyone else for what I have become and where I am today (which may be good or bad depending on your perspective, ha, ha!). As for Ted Kennedy, I can't admire him because he is too much of a buffoon, or class clown, BUT he has largely been made the way he is by the forces who destroyed his family and murdered his brothers, so I do feel sorry for him (but would have a vast respect for him if he reopened the investigations and spoke publicly about the assassinations of his brothers, though that probably will never happen). He had great potential, that was destroyed when his brothers were killed and when "they" got a hook in him with the Chappaquiddick incident which may have been staged (at least partly) to compromise him. His dad Joe Sr. was just a no good smuggler, banker, elite, who helped get Nixon's political career off the ground so I don't like him at all. Whitley Strieber may just be an intelligence tool to disrupt the UFO investigation movement. Mike Levine is doing great work and I hope he will keep it up. Thanks for the response. Would you like to share your views on the assassination of JFK, or RFK? How about the "mind control" field so well covered by Alex Constantine? Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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