-Caveat Lector-

Big problem with the below essay, if money was being issued in an equitable
and just manner, social security and medicare would be unnecessary. FDR and
company broke the country's collective leg by artificially withdrawing money
from the economy -- calling in all loans, etc. in 1929 --- and then handed
us the crutch of social security, welfare, unemployment, and medicare. If
anyone wants to know how to pull the rug out from the gangsters and
banksters vulturing the country through Alan Greenspan (one man I might
believe is a Reptilian -- not even using a disguise), then check out the
Social Credit sights which you can find on your search engine. Money should
be issued in balance to the goods and services available, and the possible
near-term production -- and at no interest to the people, or, of course, the
government -- which should be issuing the money with a tight system of
checks and balances, that's the catch. THe Greenspan Crowd charges interest
on all new money issued -- did you ever notice that the richer the United
States gets -- the more deeply we are in "debt" ---- why? --- because the
money which the Fed issues against our nation's productivity is issued with
interest AGAINST ourselves and our nation from the moment it is brought into
existence. Crazy! and criminal. The Social Credit system (or, National
Credit, as its called in Hungary, most of the US, and elsewhere) would
eliminate unnecessary big government AND defang the large corporations ---
all in one master swoop. Seek out Social Credit sights for those of you who
would understand money. Try to get ahold of the 8 page (newspaper) pamphlet:
The Money Myth Exploded by Louis Even, for a real lesson. Jim Condit Jr.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of nurev
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 11:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CTRL] Big Bad Socialism
>
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Subject:
>           Big government: it works
>      Date:
>           Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:53:35 -0500
>      From:
>           Carl Remick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Nice column by Joe Conason, in today's Salon:
> The cultural imperative of the moment is to honor our elders, whose
> achievements during the past half-century are now being celebrated in
> bestselling books by network anchormen Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings, as
> well as in essays and columns and television specials. When it comes to
> values like ethics, patriotism, and sacrifice for the common good the
> generation that overcame the Depression and won World War II  looks
> pretty good  especially in contrast to the baby boomers now in power.
> Implicit in this chorus of praise for Mom and Dad (or Grandma and
> Grandpa) is a conservative parable for America at the end of the
> American Century, a stark morality play about hard-working, self-denying
> citizens as opposed to their lazy, narcissistic offspring. Yet within
> this same fable lies another very different message that contradicts and
> subverts the conventional wisdom of our time. The venerable generation
> now passing into history knows something critical that we are being
> taught to deny.
> In their dotage, older Americans understand that their generation's best
> friend has been big government, which has saved so many of them from
> poverty, insecurity and medical bankruptcy. They know, from their own
> experience with Social Security and Medicare, that government can do big
> things and do them well.
> To say this sounds almost shocking in the present political climate,
> when the corporatization of pensions, health care, schools and even
> prisons is so fashionable among Republicans and Democrats alike, that
> the suggestion of any new federal program encounters almost automatic
> derision. The old faith in public institutions has been discarded, and
> we are advised every day to bend our knees instead before the great
> Golden Bull of the Market, from which all blessings supposedly flow.
> The sustained rise of the Dow Jones index has validated this new
> idolatry -- and now, in an irony few seem to appreciate, we are told
> that the systems of social insurance devised by our venerated elders
> must be dismantled. If only we will place our faith in Wall Street and
> turn our faces from Washington, then we can all be rich in our old age.
> All we have to do is "privatize" Social Security through individual
> investment accounts (and turn Medicare over to the managed-care
> industry).
> Heroic media images of the World War II generation subtly reinforce
> those arguments, urging us by example to emulate the rugged
> individualism of a more upright and self-sufficient era. But even a
> glance at the real history of postwar America demolishes that
> free-market myth. Our parents and grandparents did work hard and
> sacrifice, but they also relied heavily upon the state to help them earn
> a better life. Government provided the G.I. Bill that educated them, the
> home loans that sheltered them, the highways that transported them and
> the student loans that educated their children.
> And, unlike their parents, they had little fear of old age because
> government had helped them provide for themselves and each other,
> collectively, through Social Security and Medicare.
> It may seem sentimental to say so, but the result is a powerful
> testament to democratic progress. Among the lasting achievements of the
> generation lauded by Jennings, Brokaw and the rest is the virtual
> elimination of poverty among the aged. They reached this milestone
> despite the dedicated opposition of corporate conservatives who tried
> for decades to kill Social Security, and who fought to prevent the
> passage of Medicare.
> While only a few of their generation actually set out to create or
> expand the federal apparatus that guarantees their security now, they
> became nearly unanimous in defending it. Not so long ago, before the
> current nostalgia took hold, the World War II generation was regularly
> slandered as a gang of "greedy geezers." All kinds of data were cranked
> out by budget-cutters and privatizers to demonstrate that the elderly
> were bankrupting the country for their own comfort, at the expense of
> future generations. But that wave of nasty propaganda didn't last long,
> in part because the political muscle of the geezers thumped any
> politician who uttered such slurs. (By the way, that's another bit of
> wisdom handed down from the aged: "Vote!")
>
> [Voting worked then. It's not the same now. Don't vote!][ J2 ]
>
> Sometime in the next century, after the last of this generation has
> departed, Social Security may reach the point of fiscal deficit. Nobody
> really knows, because nobody can predict how fast the economy will grow
> decades from now. Medicare's future financing seems more uncertain
> because of rising health-care costs. The contentious debate over reforms
> and revisions has scarcely begun to engage the consciousness of those
> who will be most affected by its outcome.
> Seductive chatter about individual retirement accounts will undoubtedly
> grow louder -- as will demands to increase the retirement age, cut
> benefits to the disabled and leave Medicare patients to the mercies of
> the managed-care executives. Experts will materialize on television to
> warn that government cannot be trusted to protect our economic security.
>
> By then we may no longer be quite so preoccupied with the generation we
> now glorify in books and movies; amnesia, not memory, is more our normal
> state of mind. But if we mean to show respect, then we should honor them
> as they really were: a people who used government to improve their lives
> and their nation.
> SALON | March 9, 1999
> As a postscript, I happened to see a documentary on the History cable
> channel last night about the building of the Golden Gate Bridge.  The
> program spoke of the community spirit that existed in San Francisco
> during the Depression -- with area homeowners and commercial property
> holders voting to offer their property as collateral to finance the
> building of the bridge, not to mention the fact that the *entire
> community* went on strike to show solidarity with the longshoremen's
> union.  The past isn't a foreign country; it's a different planet.
>
> Carl Remick
>
> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> ==========
> CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list.
> Proselyzting propagandic
> screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are
> sordid matters
> and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections
> and outright
> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and
> minor effects
> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always
> suggests to readers;
> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
> nazi's need not apply.
>
> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> ========================================================================
> Archives Available at:
> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
>
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
========================================================================
To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Om

DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
==========
CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic
screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
========================================================================
Archives Available at:
http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
========================================================================
To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Om

Reply via email to