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From: Colleen Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I wonder - when I was in high school (ancient history) there was talk of
>a perpetual motion machine being suppressed because, it would put a lot
>of people out of business.  Cannot remember what it ran on....other than
>perpetual motion.
>Do an of you gentlemn have anything on perpetual motion <...>

For a brief look at perpetual-motion and free-energy devices, see the
Whole Earth Catalog publication THE FRINGES OF REASON, ed. Ted Schultz.

>Now - and this is a stupid question from a layman.....what makes the
>earth revolve about the sun; isn't this a form of perpetual motion.

Orbiting is an artifact of *gravity*, not perpetual motion.  Terra and
Luna orbit each other, getting closer over time; the Terra-Luna two-body
system orbits Sol along with the other planets, but these orbits also
decay over time.  TANSTAAFL [There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch]
Velocity and gravity produce orbits, but gravity always wins, orbits
always decay, things go crunch - it's called Entropy.  [Sooner or later,
everything put together, falls apart].  What's really amazing are the
effects of Chaos/Complexity: given an energy input, systems become more
complex.  That's mostly because there's an inner boundary on simplicity,
but no outer boundary on complexity.  With just totally random evolution,
things become more complex.  See CHAOS by James Gleick for more on this.

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