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Gwyneth Paltrow I might have listened to.
Dan
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From: flw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 4:37 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Brits Told To Stockpile Food, US Govt Mistrusts and Hides
Y2K Preparatioin
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>I have been researching this issue for over a year. It is apparent that the
>US Govt
>has taken the position that The People cannot be trusted. The govt has a
>martial law plan in place, unfortunately the real remediation plan is
F.O.F.
>(fix on failure), control the population through martial law, and
discourage
>the population from planning ahead.
>
>It is the old P.A.N.G. (People Are No Good) syndrome at work. This is
>further proof that we are governed by Elitists, Manipulators, and Self
>Serving Politico - Sociopaths.
>flw
>
>>BRITISH GOVERNMENT WARNS CITIZENS TO STOCKPILE FOOD
>>Some Y2K leadership finally appears from a bureaucrat: Gwyneth
>>Flower, the head of the British government's millennium bug
>>Taskforce 2000, has now advised people to plan ahead. She's
>>quoted in the story as saying, "We are talking about people
>>having a judicious amount of surplus food in their kitchen
>>cupboards."
>>
>>FLOWER CALLS PLANS 'SENSIBLE'
>>"Anyone sensible would plan for this. Because we don't want to
>>see panic buying in the weeks leading up to next Christmas,
>>consumers should think about this in advance," Flower said.
>>Detroit News link at:
>>http://detnews.com/1998/technology/9812/14/12140186.htm
>>
>>Remember that in the United States, government officials are
>>calling preparedness, "disruptive" and one person from the
>>GartnerGroup calls preparations, "unnatural." There has been
>>absolutely no government-sponsored call for the public to prepare
>>here in the United States. And actions that are considered,
>>"sensible" in the U.K. are considered "unnatural" in the United
>>States.
>>
>>What's going on here?
>>
>>WE'VE ELECTED A BUNCH OF COWARDS
>>An utter lack of leadership, that's what's going on here. Our
>>government leaders are scared silly about acknowledging the Y2K
>>problem is real. So instead of demonstrating real leadership,
>>they'll wait until the problem gets *really* bad, when almost
>>nobody has a realistic chance of actually being able to get
>>prepared. Then they'll claim they had no way of knowing it was
>>this bad. It's classic bureaucratic behavior: keep the
>>information from the American people, then blame "radicals" for
>>the panic.
>>
>>With the U.K. now calling on its citizens to hoard food, and
>>with the Canadian government now pondering Martial Law (see story
>>below), the United States government has done virtually nothing.
>>Clinton is all but silent on the issue, and Congress is too busy
>>Impeaching Clinton to look at Y2K. At the same time, John
>>Koskinen, Clinton's Y2K czar, offers no reasonable preparation
>>advice for American citizens, working instead to "alleviate fear"
>>rather than tell people the truth about what they should be doing
>>right now.
>>
>>THE GREATEST GOVERNMENTAL BLUNDER IN HISTORY
>>Y2K is shaping up to be exactly that: the worst mistake the
>>American government has ever made. While they squabble over
>>impeachment and political power, the infrastructure of government
>>threatens to collapse all around them. Only Senator Bennett has
>>spoken loudly about what's going on here, and even he has
>>recently tamed-down his rhetoric, likely out of concern of
>>"scaring" people.
>>
>>Everybody is afraid of scaring people. But they're not afraid of
>>leaving people in the dark. Why is that?
>>
>>PAPER SAYS, 'START HOARDING NOW'
>>This Observer report says, "Britons have been warned to stock up
>>with two weeks' emergency food rations in anticipation of
>>millennium bug-related shortages."
>>
>>It goes on to mention that people should prepare for the
>>worst-case scenario: "In an unprecedented statement indicating
>>the level of panic in official circles, the Department of Trade
>>and Industry-funded task force, charged with minimising potential
>>damage caused by the bug, has said that contingency planning for
>>a worst-case scenario should start as soon as possible."
>>
>>In this story, Flower is quoted as saying, "Because we don't
>>want to see panic buying in the weeks leading up to next
>>Christmas, consumers should think about this in advance."
>>
>>THIS IS PRECISELY THE POINT CLINTON DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
>>Why can't U.S. officials get this? This quote from Flower hits
>>the nail on the head: you have to warn people EARLY and encourage
>>preparedness actions EARLY in order to avoid the panic.
>>
>>Clinton and Koskinen don't see it that way. They think that
>>covering it up for as long as possible is the best strategy.
>>Delay, delay, delay. They apparently hope the problem can be
>>covered up indefinitely.
>>
>>WHY DID FLOWER ISSUE THE WARNING?
>>According to the story, "...it has now emerged that large
>>numbers of government, utilities and corporate computer systems
>>that control every aspect of our lives will not be ready for the
>>turn of the century."
>>
>>Again, that's one more Y2K fact that still is not being
>>acknowledged here in the United States. The line from Koskinen:
>>all government services will be just fine. There's no need to
>>worry.
>>
>>Read the Observer story at:
>>http://reports.guardian.co.uk/articles/1998/12/13/38148.html
>>
>>
>>FLOWER GETS SILENCED!
>>It seems that all government-employed Y2K-warners get silenced
>>eventually. And there's no exception here. Somebody silenced
>>Flower. Somebody probably got to her and told her to shut up or
>>she'd lose her job. She later denied she was encouraging people
>>to stockpile. She said the paper quoted her out of context,
>>saying, "The key thing is to tell everyone they don't need to
>>take any specific action. We don't want people hoarding."
>>
>>How's that for an instant reversal? One day she's saying, "We
>>are talking about people having a judicious amount of surplus
>>food in their kitchen cupboards. Anyone sensible would plan for
>>this..."
>>
>>The next day, she's saying people don't need to "take any
>>specific action."
>>
>>What do you suppose happened between those two days?
>>Read the details at:
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_234000/234077.stm
>>
>>
>>NO SURPRISE HERE. THEY TOLD HER TO SHUT UP
>>This is precisely why you need to get your Y2K news from a
>>non-government source and a non-mega-corporation source. Those
>>people can be told to shut up. Independent sources like
>>Y2KNEWSWIRE.COM, www.garynorth.com, Ed Yourdon (www.yourdon.com)
>>and others *cannot* be told to shut up, which is exactly why
>>you're still getting the truth from us. And it's precisely why
>>you see these confounding reversals by government employees. You
>>saw the same thing with the Federal Reserve's Edward Kelley. In
>>late 1997, he offered dire words of warning. In mid-1998, those
>>words were squashed, replaced with mild statements.
>>
>>Even mega-corporations have huge interests to protect. That's
>>why, we think, the Ziff-Davis Y2K site, led by Mitch Ratcliffe,
>>continues to minimize the entire issue and distribute incorrect
>>Y2K information. In one essay, Ratcliffe actually claims that
>>withdrawing cash could lead to inflation and panic. It's utterly
>>ridiculous, considering that the withdrawing of cash (and
>>subsequent hoarding of it) is a highly *deflationary* action, not
>>inflationary. Ratcliffe also focuses on calculators instead of
>>power utilities, distracting readers from the important
>>infrastructure issues.
>>
>>But it's not a mystery: Ziff-Davis also publishes PC Magazine
>>and dozens of other computer publications. They've got a
>>financial empire to protect, and telling people that computers
>>won't work doesn't help their subscriptions, we think.
>>
>>That's exactly why we encourage readers to check out the
>>non-controlled Y2K news sources. Even if you think Gary North is
>>way off base, you've got to admit he's not controlled by any
>>bureaucrat or megacorporation. Gary North tells you what he
>>personally believes, and that's a rare thing these days.
>>
>>WIRED News, too, seems to have a great deal of credibility on
>>the Y2K issue. Although they don't get into predictions and
>>in-depth analysis, they do a good job on the reporting of events.
>>www.wired.com
>>
>>And, of course, Y2KNEWSWIRE.COM is completely independent. We
>>accept no outside advertising, and we're entirely supported by
>>sales of the Y2K Sourcebook from www.y2ksupply.com, allowing us
>>to keep this daily e-mail alert 100% free of charge. We now reach
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>>March.
>>
>>The point is, consider the source here. When a power company
>>says, "There's no problem with power," and a government
>>bureaucrat says, "There's no problem with the government," and a
>>banking official says, "There's no problem with the banks!" you
>>have still heard absolutely nothing of value. Each of these
>>statements is designed to protect, not inform. Actually conveying
>>good information to the public is the *last* thing on the mind's
>>of Y2K spokespeople these days. They're far more concerned about
>>keeping stock prices propped up and avoiding accountability.
>>
>>
>>CANADA CONSIDERS MARTIAL LAW
>>We've been called "radicals" for supposing the United States is
>>going to declare Martial Law before the Summer of 2000. In fact,
>>this is one of our most certain predictions: it's inevitable!
>>
>>Canada realizes this, and they're now discussing their own
>>Martial Law plans. This Ottawa Citizen report says, "The federal
>>government should consider invoking the Emergencies Act, the
>>successor to the War Measures Act, if the millennium bug causes
>>widespread chaos, according to newly obtained government
>>documents."
>>
>>You can bet a similar report has already been sent to the White
>>House, too. But instead of making it public, the White House is
>>following their best Y2K strategy: "Keep the American people in
>>the dark as long as possible."
>>
>>"In the worst case, we should consider the Emergencies Act a
>>potential source of special powers," urged documents prepared by
>>government in July.
>>
>>The news report also mentions Canada's Operation Abacus:
>>"Several months ago the Canadian Forces were told to prepare for
>>the biggest peacetime deployment of troops ever in case computer
>>failures caused by the Year 2000 problem disrupted key services.
>>The plan, dubbed Operation Abacus, also involves the development
>>of rules governing the use of force by soldiers in case they are
>>called upon to assist police in dealing with emergency incidents."
>>
>>Read the report at:
>>http://www.ottawacitizen.com/national/981212/2098082.html
>>
>>Another report from the Nando Times says, "According to the
>>paper Canadian troops have already been advised to prepare for
>>what would be the greatest peacetime deployment of soldiers in
>>case of unrest or other troubles due to the computer bug."
>>
>>Read it at:
>>http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/info/121398/info1_27942.html
>>
>>
>>TROOPS ON THE STREETS, EH?
>>You bet. Six months ago, the idea was called "loony." Today it's
>>fact. Canada *will* have troops on the street to help with Y2K.
>>Y2KNEWSWIRE says the United States will have the same thing, too.
>>It's only a matter of time before the occupation is announced.
>>
>>But this need not be seen as some kind of ominous takeover of
>>American cities by the military. We don't think it's that at all.
>>Rather, most people are going to be begging for the military to
>>show up and bring them food, water and other supplies. They'll
>>gladly suspend the Constitution if it means getting fed.
>>
>>Naturally, those people who prepare early won't have to depend
>>on the Red Cross, National Guard and the U.S. military to bring
>>them emergency rations.
>>
>>
>>HELP CONFIRM OR DISPEL THE RUMORS!
>>While our own staff conducts full-time research on the Y2K issue,
>>we find that some of our best information comes from you, our
>>readers! And today, we're asking you to help us confirm or dispel
>>several Y2K-related rumors. We're looking for *verifiable*
>>evidence on these items, including public statements, news
>>reports, and other printed materials. If you have any evidence on
>>these issues, please e-mail us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>Please avoid, "My friend told me..." or , "I found this posted
>>in a newsgroup..." Those are not credible, verifiable sources.
>>Instead, we need quotable, verifiable evidence.
>>
>>The items:
>>
>>* The anti-hoarding law: true or not? People are saying a law
>>has already been passed making it illegal to possess more than 90
>>days of food. Fact or fiction? Help us out if you have any
>>evidence on this.
>>
>>* The San Francisco power outage: Y2K-related or not? We've
>>heard plenty of rumors about this, but no facts yet. We even
>>attempted to get a statement from the mayor on the issue, and all
>>we got was, "No comment."
>>
>>* Some people are reporting the federal government has made it
>>illegal to buy, possess or trade in govt.-issue MREs (military
>>meals).
>>
>>* Automobile recalls: we keep hearing (unconfirmed) rumors that
>>some autos have been recalled due to Y2K-related issues. But
>>we've been unable to confirm a single one.
>>
>>
>>- Webmaster
>>
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