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MJ:
    Reading through this tripe, the consideration of a 'mirror' view
    regarding the Democratic desire to SAVE an accused perjurer who has
    abused his power and his office 'turned' on every word.


Sno0wl wrote:
  This "accused perjurer" was accused of saying that he was never
  alone with a woman when, in fact, he was alone with her. Being
  alone with the woman was not, in itself, a crime.
MJ:
Correct, but LYING about this under oath in an effort to thwart
culpability in a civil suit most certainly is ... as well as
being in conflict with a President's oath of office.


Sno0wl wrote:
  This "accused perjurer" is accused of saying that he never had
  "sexual relations" with a certain woman, when in fact he did have
  sexual relations of a sort. Having sexual relations with the woman
  was not a crime.
MJ:
Did you investigate the many laws regarding sodomy within the nation's
capitol? LYING about this under oath in an effort to
thwart culpability in a civil suit most certainly is ... as
well as being in conflict with a President's oath of office.



Sno0wl wrote:
  He is accused of perjury in relation to matters which do not,
  in any way, relate to criminal acts.
MJ:
The perjury itself is a criminal act.

No mention of the abuses of office and power utilized to the goal
of thwarting culpability in that civil manner?  Afterall, Mr. Nixon
was pursued for 'covering up' a crime he did not commit as compared
to Clinton's desire to do the same for his OWN crimes.



Sno0wl wrote:
   Many of the most educated people in our nation, including
   distinguished legal scholars and prosecutors who participated
   in the Iran-Contra hearings, cannot believe that Clinton is
   being impeached over these issues. Ken Starr's own ethical
   advisor has quit over these issues. However, all we hear on
   the news is what the  ruthless, relentless, vengeful  Republican
   members of the Judiciary Committee think, do, and say.
MJ:
Certainly one is learned enough to 'wade' through the BS and locate
primary sourcing ... establishing an opinion for ones self of the
FACTS.

Hamilton, Federalist Number 65:

   A well-constituted court for the trial of impeachments is an
   object not more to be desired than difficult to be obtained in a
   government wholly elective. The subjects of its jurisdiction are
   those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or,
   in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust.
   They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be
   denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done
   immediately to the society itself. The prosecution of them, for
   this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole
   community, and to divide it into parties more or less friendly or
   inimical to the accused. In many cases it will connect itself with
   the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their animosities,
   partialities, influence, and interest on one side or on the other;
   and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the
   decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of
   parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.


I simply point to our current efforts in Iraq ... the questioning
of Mr. Clinton's motives in itself demonstrates the 'violation of
some public trust.'  The same accusations occurred when Mr. Clinton
destroyed a pharmaceutical plant in August.


Regard$,
--MJ

Men in public trust will much oftener act in such a manner as
to render them unworthy of being any longer trusted, than in
such a manner as to make them obnoxious [subject] to legal
punishment. -- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No 70

It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people
believe is true. -- Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd

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