-Caveat Lector- How could they NOT have know about the 911 threats? E-mails from the nutcases describing plans to fly airplanes into the WTC were forwarded even to this list, and many others, long in advance. I even remember the _President of the U.S._ being recipient in one e-mail!! Mind you, nobody thought them very rational plans back then. And now all the archives with these e-mails seem to have mysteriously been dissappeared from everywhere...
Oh well, maybe Bush wanted to wipe out the evidence where he got the ideas from... On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Steve Wingate wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > ------- Forwarded message follows ------- > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "better_off_said <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date sent: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:58:28 -0000 > Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] 2002: Anomalous Stories in Review > Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Where Are They Now? > > The following are (aside from one speech) various stories that I > found online and had book marked throughout the year, but forgot > about until making a frivolous attempt to organize my favorites > file. While most of them are focused around the September 11th > investigation, others are just anomalous stories that broke in the > mainstream press then inexplicably vanished. I have not included > stories that, while proven anomalous (i.e. the Sniper Case), got > significant media coverage. What I am including below are those > stories that -- despite their mainstream coverage and considerable > implications -- seemed to have fallen off the face of the Earth. In > my opinion, some of these stories should have in the least garnered > public concern or outcry, while others certainly warranted further > investigation; but, for whatever reason, they simply fizzled out or > disappeared altogether -- some of the links are even dead now. > > I'm also curious to know if any of you have follow-up to these > stories and would also appreciate any others you might have to add: > > MORE DOCUMENTED 9-11 FOREKNOWLEDGE > > The Orlando Sentinel > Inmate Says He Told FBI About Danger to New York > by Doris Bloodsworth > January 6, 2002 > > "Walid Arkeh contends that, during a late-summer interview that > federal officials acknowledge took place, FBI agents scoffed at his > promise to exchange more details for freedom, asylum and protection. > > "But since Sept. 11, the 35-year-old Jordanian national from > Altamonte Springs has been grilled by federal agents and whisked to > an undisclosed location by state corrections officials. His name and > photo -- all traces of his presence in the system -- have been > removed from the Department of Corrections Web site." (archives: > www.orlandosentinel.com) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MYSTERIOUS MURDER SURROUNDING 9-11 > > CNN.com > FBI probes death of driver's license examiner > Woman gave licenses to men being checked for terrorist links > February 15, 2002 Posted: 11:19 PM EST (0419 GMT) > > "Katherine Smith was found burned to death in her car early Sunday, a > day before she was to be arraigned on federal charges she helped five > Middle Eastern men and one juvenile get fake driver's licenses > earlier this month. The five adults are under investigation for > possible ties to the September 11 terrorist attacks, law enforcement > officials said." http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/02/15/inv.licenser.death/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > CIA DIRECTOR'S ADMISSION OF 9-11 FOREKNOWLEDGE > > [This speech given by CIA Deputy Director, Jim Pavitt, is one of the > most head-scratching, contradictory speeches I've ever read regarding > 9-11. Pavitt starts by basically admitting the CIA had foreknowledge > of the attacks, stating that "we warned that Al Qaeda was planning a > major strike," but then rushes to say they didn't have the "tactical > intelligence" to stop them. But then Pavitt flip-flops again, > stating the CIA "were there well before the 11th of September." He > then contradicts himself again by stating the CIA was the first on > the ground "within days" after the attacks (wait a minute, I thought > they never left?). And now, according to Pavitt, while (in 2002) the > CIA had "more spies stealing more secrets than at any time in the > history of the CIA," they can't do anything to stop "the next > terrorist attack"? Amazing! Still, the most mind-boggling statement > of Pavitt's speech has to be: "...the United States as a whole could > not neither prevent or precisely predict the devastating tragedy of > the September 11th attacks." Doesn't that double-negative mean that > they COULD have prevented the attacks?!] > > Jim Pavitt, Deputy Director for Operations > Address to Duke University Law School Conference > April 11, 2002 > (as delivered) > > Excerpts: > > "(...)I think it's important to note tonight that we did not discover > terrorism on the 12th of September. For many of us the war commenced > many many years earlier." > > "Teams of my paramilitary operations officers...were among the first > on the ground in Afghanistan...We were on the ground within days of > that terrible attack." > > "...the fact remains...that we in the government of the United States > as a whole could not neither prevent or precisely predict the > devastating tragedy of the September 11th attacks." > > "...On September 10th we were devoting more and more resources > against the terrorist target than at any other intelligence challenge > we faced." > > "We had very, very good intelligence of the general structure and > strategies of the al Qaeda terrorist organization. We knew and we > warned that al Qaeda was planning a major strike. There need be no > question about that." > > "We never found the tactical intelligence, never uncovered the > specifics that could have stopped those tragic strikes that we all > remember so well." > > "If you hear somebody say...the CIA abandoned Afghanistan after the > Soviets left and that we never paid any attention to that place until > September 11th, I would implore you to ask those people how we were > able to accomplish all we did since the Soviets departed...we were > there well before the 11th of September." > > "Today, the year 2002, I have more spies stealing more secrets than > at any time in the history of the CIA....We're stealing more secrets, > providing our leadership with more intelligence than we've ever done > before." > > "...Despite the best efforts of so much of the world, the next > terrorist attack—it's not a question of if, it's a question of > when. > With so many possible targets and an enemy more than willing to die, > the perfect defense isn't possible." > http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/pavitt_04262002.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "STAR WARS" GETS THE THUMBS UP > > The Guardian > Bush wins the final battle for star wars > · Kremlin abandons bitter opposition > · Construction starts in Alaska within weeks > > Ian Traynor in Moscow and Julian Borger in Washington > Thursday May 16, 2002 > > "The Pentagon is to start construction work on NMD in Alaska within > weeks following a frenzy of intense diplomacy that this week has > resulted in the announcement of a major arms control treaty with > Russia and a new deal between Nato and Russia that allows Moscow > inside the alliance's councils for the first time. > > "The Americans are capitalising on the new spirit of partnership to > sweep away opposition to the missile shield scheme and co-opt the > world's second nuclear power. > > "With Washington and Moscow apparently bent on forging a new > partnership, Presidents George Bush and Vladimir Putin have agreed to > set up a joint committee on NMD, a senior Russian official revealed > yesterday, to head off Russian opposition. > > "The agreement is in turn expected to undermine resistance to the > project in western Europe. > > "The initiative will be unveiled next week when Mr Bush visits Russia > for the first time for a summit with Mr Putin. " > http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,716259,00.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? > > FOXnews.com > Police Seize Rental Truck With TNT Traces > Monday, May 13, 2002 > By Carl Cameron > > "A Budget truck was pulled over in Oak Harbor, Wash., last Tuesday > near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station and found to have traces of > TNT on the gearshift and traces of RDX plastic explosive on the > steering wheel, Fox News has learned. > > "Documents read to Fox News indicate that both driver and passenger > were Israeli nationals. Investigators say a roadside check of the > national database of immigration records indicated that one of the > men had not entered the country legally, and the other was in > violation of his visa. Both men were taken into custody for > immigration violations." > http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,52681,00.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > YET MORE 9-11 FOREKNOWLEDGE: > > TIMES ONLINE > June 12, 2002 > Moroccan secret agent 'predicted New York attack' > By Daniel McGrory > > "A MOROCCAN secret service agent says that for two years he > successfully infiltrated al-Qaeda before breaking cover last summer > to warn his bosses that the terror group was plotting 'something > spectacular' in New York > > "Reports from Casablanca say that Mr Dabou was flown in secret to > Washington, where he was co-operating with US intelligence agents > when the hijackers struck. > > "Growing evidence of al-Qaeda's Moroccan links was not followed up by > Western agencies last summer. Informers and minor figures arrested in > Europe had revealed their associations with a number of Moroccans > allied to radical Islamic groups, but the pattern was ignored." > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-324191,00.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MORE MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEARING ISRAELIS > > abcnews.com > The White Van > Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? > June 21, 2002 > > "The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, 'We are > Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The > Palestinians are the problem.' The other passengers were his brother > Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. > > "When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out > of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign > Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage > cases, ABCNEWS has learned. > > "The reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI > believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli > intelligence operation. > After the five men were arrested, the FBI got a warrant and searched > Urban Moving's Weehawken, N.J., offices. > > "The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing > boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also > questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client > answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to > interview him again a few days later, he was gone." > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.htm > l > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > BROWN RECLUSE, OR ANTHRAX? > > MSNBC.com > Spider Bites -- Or Something More Dangerous? > > 8:13 a.m. EDT July 3, 2002 - John King and Artie Gabriellini were > strangers until doctors told them they have something in common: They > believe both men were bitten by the rare brown recluse spider. > > "There's been an unusually high incidence of similar bites in recent > weeks -- five cases, when they usually see about one per year." > > "The uncertainty has led the Suffolk County Health Department to call > for anthrax testing of all five Mather patients." > http://stacks.msnbc.com/local/wnbc/A1245406.asp > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ALMOST A YEAR LATER, STILL SECURITY BREECHES > > Airlines Alerted to Impostors > Thieves Take Uniforms; Crews Report Stalkings > By Greg Schneider > Washington Post Staff Writer > Saturday, August 10, 2002; Page A01 > > "The Transportation Security Administration has warned airlines to be > on the lookout for impostors wearing stolen uniforms trying to gain > access to planes or airports, citing a series of recent thefts from > flight crews. > > "Agency officials would not comment on the confidential warning, > which was issued July 22 -- a week after burglars took airline > uniforms, keys and identification tags from the New York apartment of > two Delta Airlines flight attendants. > > "The warning does not cite any particular case, saying only that the > TSA 'continues to receive reports' about such thefts. It adds > that 'recent reporting also suggests a possible trend in the thefts > of uniforms, vehicles and other items used by police, firefighters > and emergency response personnel.' > > "Terrorists have been known to impersonate authority figures in other > countries, such as when Palestinian attackers dressed as Israeli > soldiers and bombed a bus last month in Israel." > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn? > pagename=article&node=&contentId=A947-2002Aug9¬Found=true > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > YET MORE CIA FOREKNOWLEDGE: > > CNN.com > September 11 hijacker questioned in January 2001 > Sources: CIA was interested in his travels in Afghanistan > August 1, 2002 Posted: 8:24 PM EDT (0024 GMT) > By Sheila MacVicar and Caroline Faraj > > "The CIA suspected Ziad Jarrah had been in Afghanistan and wanted him > questioned because of 'his suspected involvement in terrorist > activities,' UAE sources said. > > "A CIA spokesman vigorously denied that the CIA knew anything about > Jarrah before September 11 or had anything do with his questioning in > Dubai. > > "UAE and European intelligence sources told CNN that the questioning > of Jarrah fits a pattern of a CIA operation begun in 1999 to track > suspected al Qaeda operatives who were traveling through the United > Arab Emirates. These sources told CNN that UAE officials were often > told in advance by U.S. officials which persons were coming through > the country and whom they wanted questioned. > > "One source provided CNN a drawing of the Dubai airport and described > how people wanted for questioning were intercepted, most often at a > transit desk. U.S. officials declined to comment on whether the CIA > operated this way at the Dubai airport. > > "A month after the hijackings, U.S. authorities also discovered a > letter written by Jarrah to his girlfriend in Germany and postmarked > September 10. In the letter -- which was mistakenly addressed and > returned to the United States, where authorities found it -- Jarrah > told his girlfriend he had done his duty." > http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/01/cia.hijacker/index.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > NATIONAL GUARD CALLED UP BY HOMELAND SECURITY -- WHY?!?! > > Guard Battalion called to service > By Kristin Buehner, Of The Globe Gazette and the Associated Press > Thu Aug 22 16:51:38 CDT 2002 > > "FORT DODGE (AP) - The Iowa Army National Guard's 1st Battalion, > 194th Field Artillery, will be ordered to federal active duty, the > Department of Defense and the National Guard Bureau in Washington, > D.C., have announced. > > "The battalion, headquartered in Fort Dodge, will deploy to locations > within the United States for homeland security missions as part of > Operation Noble Eagle II, Col. Robert King, public affairs officer > for the Iowa National Guard, said Wednesday in a news release. The > battalion includes units in Algona, Estherville, Spencer and Storm > Lake. > > "Duty locations are not being announced." > http://www.globegazette.com/local/ni3.php > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MORE EVIDENCE MIRACULOUSLY SHOWS UP IN WRECKAGE! > > MSNBC.com > U.S. sees Moussaoui link to hijacker > September 24, 2002 > > "Prosecutors for the first time Tuesday revealed evidence that they > claimed directly linked conspiracy suspect Zacarias Moussaoui with > the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, alleging that a telephone number > Moussaoui called was scrawled on a business card belonging to one of > the hijackers of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a > Pennsylvania field." > > "The Government said Tuesday that the business card, which was found > in the wreckage of the crash site in Shanksville, Pa., belonged to > Ziad Jarrah, one of the suspected pilots of Flight 93." > > "In response, the pleading said, 'Jarrah's role as a hijacker on > Flight 93 is important to the government's evidence linking defendant > to the conspiracy, because a telephone number that defendant called > during the conspiracy was scrawled on a business card belonging to > Jarrah, which was found at the crash site in Pennsylvania.'" (from > the archives of unansweredquestions.org: > http://www.unansweredquestions.net/timeline/2002/msnbc092402.html) > > Alleged photo from Ziad Jarrah's burned passport recovered in flight > 93's wreckage (note that the CNN "passport photo" and this "passport > photo" are different): > http://a799.ms.akamai.net/3/799/388/ba95fe35283c4d/www.msnbc.com/d/v/2 > 50x190/nn_pwilliams_moussaoui_020924.jpg > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ONCE AGAIN, 9-11 MONEY TRAIL GETS A ROADBLOCK > > MSNBC.com > 9-11 Hijackers: A Saudi Money Trail? > The Feds probe a possible new Saudi link to Al Qaeda > By Michael Isikoff > NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE > > "(...)sources describe the financial records as 'explosive' and say > the information has spurred an intense, behind-the-scenes battle > between congressional leaders and the Bush administration over > whether evidence highly embarrassing to the Saudi government should > be publicly disclosed—especially at a time that the White House > is > aggressively seeking Saudi support for a possible war against > Iraq. 'This is a matter of the foreign-policy interests of the United > States,' said another administration official, who cited the need to > prevent a rift in the U.S.-Saudi relationship." > > "The leaders of a joint House-Senate Intelligence Committees > investigation have vigorously pushed for the release of a classified > report that lays out the evidence of the Saudi money flow. But Bush > administration officials, led by Attorney General John Ashcroft and > FBI Director Robert Mueller, have adamantly refused to declassify the > evidence upon which the report is based." (get it while it's still > there: http://www.msnbc.com/news/838867.asp#BODY) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PIPELINE? WHAT PIPELINE? > > Pakistani, Turkmen, Afghan leaders to sign $3.2 billion pipeline deal > BAGILA BUKHARBAYEVA, Associated Press Writer > Thursday, December 26, 2002 > > (12-26) 05:59 PST ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan (AP) -- Leaders from > Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkmenistan met Thursday to work out the > final details of an ambitious deal to build a gas pipeline through > war-ravaged Afghanistan. > > The long-delayed $3.2-billion natural gas pipeline, known as the > Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline, would carry gas from energy-rich > Turkmenistan to Pakistan. It would be one of the first major > investment projects in Afghanistan in decades. > > Turkmenistan, which possesses the fifth largest gas reserves in the > world, would get a badly needed alternative route for gas exports. In > 1994 Russia refused to transport gas from this former Soviet republic > via the pipelines running through its territory. > > "Once the contract is signed tomorrow, different private companies > and consortiums can take interest in the project should there be > interest in it," said Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah. "It is a > project which is good for prosperity of all three countries." > > The pipeline was originally launched in 1997 by a consortium led by > U.S. energy giant Unocal Corp. but abandoned after the United States > fired cruise missiles into Afghanistan in 1998 in pursuit of Osama > bin Laden's al-Qaida network. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi- > bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/12/26/financial0859EST0011.DTL > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. 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