Re: [CTRL] Solana, the EU and religion

[David Sutherland]

-Caveat Lector- Javier Solana Madariaga is a Roman Catholic Spaniard who bears the name of one of the founding members of the Jesuit Society. His lack of any moral compulsion is indicative of his eulogy of Jesuit trained graduates and that adage that Jesuitism is best held in contempt for, "the end justifies the mean". There is nothing New Agey about Solana. He's not out to convert the world with baubles, bangles and magic crystals. He likes bigger toys, like cluster bombs. His allegiance is to the Vatican. All the recent and near recent past wars in Europe have successfully enlarged the lebensraum of the "Holy Roman Empire," once run by the papacy and its obsequious feudal lords. You have lived to witness its revival. That's not to say that papal clericalism does not produce good atheists and very bloody atheists. Look at the French Revolution, hundreds of years of religious despotism. France, the alleged "eldest daughter of the Holy Roman Catholic Church," its violent revolution was a clear example of the bloody outworking of a papal dominated society. BTW - I would never quote (below) anything from people like "Hal Lindsey," as reliable. The guy is a complete halfwit and liar and has demonstrated time and again to be a substandard interpreter of the times, or to use his own Zionist-Xtian gobshyte, he is a FALSE prophet. Dave. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zuukie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: [CTRL] Solana, the EU and religion > -Caveat Lector- > > I am sending this piece in plain text because of the size.  I hope you > will cut and paste the sites and follow thru on the material, as tedious > as it may be.  If you do, you will be way ahead of the crowd that is > waiting for others to tell them what is happening. > > Why am I sending this? The European Union is growing and may surpass the > US in power. This can affect the military decisions and economic > position of the United States.  (Read jobs and military decisions.) > Cooperation with the EU and Solana will cause cultural changes which > will affect monotheists.  The European Union is taking a pro-Palestinian > stand.  (Strange as the coincidence may seem, Hitler attempted to > destroy the Jews first because they were the smallest group.)  Javier > Solana is the key player in European Union activities.  There is very > definitely a New Age political face to this power...growth of a single > governmental power, dislike of monotheism and the morality it promotes. > Sounds like another movement that grew in the 20's and '30s.  Many who > read this would like to see monotheistic religion dropped as a > determinant of a culture's morality.  I can only remind them that power > corrupts. > > Constance Cumbey has been following Solana's activities since 1995.  She > recently called attention to an important statement by Solana. > > This is the story on which the email subject line and the following two > comments are based: > > http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/world/story/0,4386,165132,00.html > > It should be interesting to see how Solana and company want to settle > the situation in the Mideast without taking Judaism and Islam into > account.  Probably all will be told you can have your rituals and > spirituality in public, but keep your own morality in your house, behind > closed doors if it is in disagreement in any way with what the decreed > public morality is ordered to be. > > 1.  This is a transcript of AM broadcast at 08:00 AEST on local radio. > EU says US letting religion drive its foreign policy > AM - Thursday, January  9, 2003 8:03 > LINDA MOTTRAM: America and its allies continue to prepare for a war in > Iraq but Europe is attempting to assert its position more strongly with > the EU's foreign policy chief accusing the US of letting religion drive > its policy on Iraq and terrorism. > > The European Union's High Representative on Foreign Policy, Javier > Solana, made the comments as the German media reported that UN weapons > inspectors have failed to find proof of US assertions that Iraq has > resumed production of biological weapons. > > Rafael Epstein reports. > > RAFAEL EPSTEIN: When President George W. Bush described Iran, Iraq and > North Korea as an axis of evil, it failed to impress the continent where > such a phrase has historical resonance. > > EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana says the choice of language of the > two sides of the Atlantic is revealing. > > He says the US tendency for its foreign policy to swing between going it > alone and working with bodies like the UN is a tendency that now more > than ever is being swung by religion. > > He says the US is increasingly looking at things in a religious context. > He told the Financial Times newspaper, the US stance is "all or nothing, > for us Europeans it's difficult to deal with because we are secular. We > do not see the world in such black and white terms." > > That contrasts with his words immediately after the September 11 attacks > when he offered Europe support with a qualification. > > JAVIER SOLANA: A blank cheque, we'd never have given a blank cheque to > anybody as far as Europe is concerned. That the American people, the > American government, the American Institutions, they know, that they can > count on the European people, European institutions, European > governments. > > RAFAEL EPSTEIN: Europe appears unable to muster enthusiasm for a war. > Today, a German newspaper, Die Tageszeitung, claims the UN's chief > weapons inspector Hans Blix, will reject many of the claims made by the > UK and US governments against Saddam Hussein. > > The paper says, UN inspectors have failed to find evidence of claims > that Iraq has resumed production of biological warfare agents at key > sites. > > And with Greece now in control of the EU's rotating presidency, their > foreign minister, George Papandreou has announced he'll visit seven Arab > states in February. A time when the weapons inspectors will have > reported to the Security Council and the US could be building support > for a war. > > Mr Papandreou says all possible hope for a peaceful settlement has not > been exhausted. > > GEORGE PAPANDREOU: We very much want to see that we can follow, we can > have a positive development with Iraq. > > That is the full implementation of the UN resolutions and I think this > is what will guarantee that we will have peace. So we certainly would > like to get that message across. > > >  Transcripts on this website are created by an independent transcription > service. The ABC does not warrant the accuracy of the transcripts. ABC > Online users are advised to listen to the audio provided on this page to > verify the accuracy of the transcripts. > > > ©2003 ABC | Privacy Policy > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > 2.  Solana's 'Theory of Relativity' > Hal Lindsey's commentary > Posted: January 9, 2003 > 1:00 a.m. Eastern > > © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com > > > I was fascinated to read a report in the London Financial Times > explaining why it is that our erstwhile European allies seem to be on > the opposite side of any equation in which the United States is a > factor...... Solana's view of European morality, there are no absolutes > because God is irrelevant, if he exists at all. Therefore, there is no > good or evil. Everything is relative. The notions of "good" and "evil" > are simply religious superstitions that the "mature societies" of Europe > have long since abandoned. > > Solana pooh-poohs the Bush administration notion that terrorism is the > overriding threat to international security and order. He scoffs at the > Bush administration's refusal to deal directly with Yasser Arafat, for > example, simply because Arafat is a terrorist. > > It is because of Bush's religiosity, together with the influence of the > Jewish lobby that keeps America from solving the Middle East peace > question. "We just have a very different political analysis over how to > deal with Arafat . where we try to pursue engagement rather than > isolation," says Solana. > > Solana's political solution is to view Arab terrorism as a cry for > political legitimacy. Israel's unwillingness to allow the Arabs to be > "legitimate" by destroying them is based in religion, not survival. It > is truly amazing that some 6 million Israelis are able to deny > approximately 120 million Arabs political legitimacy. > > Where is Solana's head when al-Qaida states openly that it is really an > Islamic war against Christians and Jews? Is he completely ignorant of at > least the last 100 years of Middle East history? > > Solana and all of his sophisticated Europeans need to remember that it > was "the religiously driven American morality" that caused us three > times in the last century to come to their aid and save their bacon - > World War I, World War II and the "Cold War." > > > > In any case, it goes a long way toward explaining why America and Israel > find themselves increasingly isolated in an increasingly hostile world. > > Israel and America are the only two nations on earth who claim their > right to exist was granted them by God. That offends the secular > humanist architects of the European superstate. > > Apparently, it offends them even more than the terrorists' claim that > their right to threaten their very existence was granted them by Allah. > > It isn't all religion that Solana finds offensive. Only the > superstitious American Christians and the evil Zionist Jews...... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > THE FOLLOWING ARE SIGNPOSTS WHICH CAN BE USED TO JUDGE THE GROWING POWER > OF SOLANA AND THE EUROPEAN UNION.  GO TO THE SITES TO SEE THE ENTIRE > STORIES. > > 1.Draft Charter for Europe Points the Way to a Bigger World Role > October 29, 2002, Tuesday > By PAUL MELLER > Foreign Desk - 519 words > > BRUSSELS, Oct. 28 - A draft constitution for an enlarged European Union > was unveiled today, pointing the way toward creating a greater European > presence on the world stage. But as it heads there, Europe has to decide > on a name. > > The draft document was prepared under the leadership of Valéry Giscard > d'Estaing, the former president of France. It seeks to raise Europe's > profile by proposing common foreign, security and defense policies. > > These policies are now handled by national governments. Britain and > France, for example, sit on the United Nations Security Council, but the > European Union is not a member of the United Nations. > > Eastward enlargement of the 15-nation union was the main factor that > prompted the review of the European Union's constitution. In 2004, the > union is expected to take in 10 new members, largely from the former > Soviet bloc to the east, almost doubling its size. > > With about 445 million citizens, the European Union will have a much > larger population than the United States, something the drafters of the > constitution want reflected in its role in international affairs. > > The draft constitution leaves many of the questions it poses unanswered. > The 15-page document is little more than a skeleton containing chapter > headings. > > The debate about its final shape will continue through to next summer, > when a final version will be handed over to heads of state for > ratification. > > The draft constitution examines the role of the European Union's foreign > policy chief, currently Xavier Solana, with a view to elevating the > position to the level enjoyed in the United States by the secretary of > state. > > It also suggests creating an elected president for the union and a > Congress of the Peoples of Europe, consisting of members of both > European and national parliaments. > > The expansion of the European Union will require new ways for the > organization to operate internally. The draft constitution seeks to curb > member states' rights to veto important union decisions. > > ''There'll be very few cases left'' that require a unanimous vote, Mr. > Giscard d'Estaing said at a news conference last week after a meeting > with European heads of state. > > Then there is the question of what Europe plans to call itself. The > document suggests four names: the European Union, as it is now called, > the European Community, United Europe, or -- most contentious of all -- > the United States of Europe. > > ''This translates into nothing less than a constitution for a federal > E.U. state,'' said Jens-Peter Bonde, a Dane who is a member of the > European Parliament but who is considered a Euroskeptic. > > ''There will be opposition from those who think there is too little > democracy in this,'' he said, ''and opposition from those who like me > say this is the creation of a state and not cooperation among states.'' > > > 2.  http://dawsonspeek.com/ > > An excellent site looking at Israel's situation from the right.  There > is an excellent article which talks of the Quartet's meeting on the > Middle East paralleled with a similar summit meeting in the '40s. > Another excellent article talks about the Muslim attacks on Christians. > --------------------------------------------------------- > > 3.  EU team plans peace mission > > Ian Black in Brussels > Thursday January 9, 2003 > The Guardian > > Europe is to undertake a diplomatic mission to the Arab world to try to > avert war in Iraq, the first time it has attempted to act collectively > in the crisis. > > George Papandreou, foreign minister of Greece, current holder of the > EU's rotating presidency, said yesterday that the effort would seek to > persuade Arab countries to mediate between Baghdad and the US. > > Greek officials said the trip, still in the planning stage, would take > place in early or mid February and would include visits to Syria, > Jordan, Lebanon and Sa..... > > 4.  EU tells America to toe the UN line > > 'Slippage' in US plans as Solana spells out Europe's misgivings > > Ian Black in Athens and Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington Saturday > January 11, 2003 The Guardian > > Transatlantic differences over Iraq threatened to set back America's > timeline for an invasion yesterday when the European Union warned the US > that there could be no war against Saddam Hussein without clear proof > that he holds banned weapons. > > Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, issued a blunt reminder to > Washington that only the UN security council could determine whether > military action was justified. > > European governments and public opinion believe overwhelmingly at this > stage that it is not justified, because the work of weapons inspectors > has been inconclusive. ...... > -------------------------------------- > 5. http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=8928 > > Solana issues warning over widening EU-US gulf > ------------------- > 6. http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=7919 > Solana: Europe to become a Super Power > ---------------------- > 7.EU proposed to have seats on UN security council > > "The EU ought to take over the permanent seats on the UN Security > Council," says Göran Persson's secretary of state. (Photo: UN) "The EU > ought to take over the permanent seats of France and Britain in the UN > Security Council", says Lars Danielsson, secretary of state to Swedish > prime minister, Göran Persson. Lars Danielsson also said that he saw no > reason for changing the power balance among the EU institutions. > > > > Press Articles  Löntagarnas Europaportal, in Swedish > > 09.10.2002 - 08:36 CET > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------------- > 8.  http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?aid=5399 > 04.03.2002 - 08:28 CET > > EU to set up intelligence services > > The 15 heads of state are expected to approve an extension of the > mandate of the EU rapid reaction force to include the fight against > international terrorism, an objective for which the Spanish presidency > of the EU has been fighting for. (Photo: These Tides) The European Union > countries are set to pool resources to set up an intelligence services > office to give the EU an intelligence arm to complement its budding > defence capabilities to help fight terrorism. > > Europe's foreign affairs chief Javier Solana will head EU's first > intelligence services, which would gather staff from national > intelligence services across EU. The plans are set to be endorsed by the > EU leaders when they gather in the Spanish city Seville, in June, > reports > The Guardian. > > Mandate of EU military force extended > The 15 heads of state are expected to approve an extension of the > mandate of the EU rapid reaction force to include the fight against > international terrorism, an objective for which the Spanish presidency > of the EU has been fighting for. In an interview with The Guardian, the > Spanish defence minister Federico Trillo unveils that Mr Solana is > already preparing to taking over this function and to add new > responsibilities to those of chief of the EU foreign policy. > > Other important aspects of the new anti-terror function the EU will take > over include plans to develop a coordinated reaction to biological, > chemical or nuclear terrorist attacks on EU soil and a military element > for air traffic. > > "European citizens expect their governments to give the union a capacity > to defend itself against possible terrorist attacks from the exterior," > Mr Trillo said. "September 11 has shown that Europe as a union does not > have a capacity to confront these sort of threats," added the Spanish > minister. The European Union has developed a defence policy with a > 60,000 strong rapid reaction force, military staff and a political and > security committee in Brussels, under the lead of Javier Solana. > > EU states reluctance > However, the major shortcoming for the future EU army would be the poor > intelligence gathering capacities, further weakened by the reluctance of > large EU states to share information with the EU defence office. > According to the Spanish defence minister, EU states start overcoming > their reluctance: "This does not weaken any country's intelligence > capabilities. This is not a new intelligence service, nor a joint > intelligence service. It is a question of coordinating the efforts of > the different services relative to information on terrorism from the > outside," reports The Guardian. > > Given the sensitive position of Spain in relation to terrorism, Mr > Trillo points out that the future EU intelligence network would only be > used to fight external terrorist threats, and not against groups such as > ETA, the Basque separatist group. > > Press Articles  The Guardian > > Written by Daniela Spinant > Edited by Lisbeth Kirk > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > (See the Dawson speaks site for information on the Quartet) > > 9.  http://europa-eu-un.org/article.asp?id=1890 > Joint statement by the Quartet on the Middle East > > Summary > December 20, 2002: Joint statement by the Quartet on the Middle East > after the meeting in Washington > United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Russian Foreign Minister > Igor Ivanov, Danish Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller, High > Representative for European Common Foreign and Security Policy Javier > Solana, and European Commissioner for External Affairs Chris Patten met > today in Washington with President Bush and Secretary of State Powell. > In his meeting, President Bush expressed strong support for the efforts > of the Quartet and his firm commitment to the Quartet's roadmap, which > would realize his vision of two states -- Israel and Palestine -- living > side-by-side in peace and security. Etc. > > 10.  http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2001/11/21/Opinion/Opinion.38489.html > > Who are you calling stupid, Dr. Solana? > By Michael Freund November, 21 2001 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > 11. And from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://search.ft.com/search/article.html?id=030107005768&query=Solana&vs > c_appId=totalSearch&state=Form > > Read and be aware.  Which side will Europe take when we are embroiled in > a great war? Lee > > Solana fears widening gulf between EU and US > By Judy Dempsey > FT.com site; Jan 07, 2003 > > The public face of Javier Solana rarely changes. > > The European Union's foreign policy chief, or High Representative, is > adept at schmoozing, smiling and patting colleagues on the shoulder, > reluctant to utter a controversial word. 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