Re: [CTRL] Is S.M.A.R.T. really D.U.M.B ???

[David Sutherland]

-Caveat Lector- O gawd! -- 'is gota h'art. Jeez -- and they were all saying you're a heartless cold-blooded reptile Ray? How wrong could they be.   Personally, I just think people are people. My post twernt about "survivors". It was more about lunatics and self-appointed Crusaders that (re)(ab)use the survivors to demonise and denounce their pet hates --Victims who materialise into Victimisers when peeling back the heart of darkness only to be dragged into the void themselves.   "But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden." Revelation 2:24  Dave.     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Boeche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Is S.M.A.R.T. really D.U.M.B ??? > -Caveat Lector- > > Wow, Dave. This was a little heavy for survivors. ; - > > > Ray > > > On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 03:13  AM, David Sutherland wrote: > > > Is S.M.A.R.T. really D.U.M.B > > (Desperately-Unsubstantiated-Malicious-Baloney) ... ??? > > > > I don't really know ... > > > > I really have no idea ... > > > > I simply am not aware ... > > > > I think it might be ... > > > > It could be true ... > > > > I don't know for sure ... > > > > But I have lots of "tales" to tell you about ghosts, goblins and SATAN > > of course -- Dark Tales from the Xtian Crypt -- rumours by fanatic > > Xtian Fundi's who allege everybody except themselves is "possessed by > > the devil," and are workers of the devil. > > > > But hang on -- ALL the evidence about alleged "demon possession" is to > > the contrary. > > > > For example, almost ALL "EXORCISMS," that is, the allegation that > > Satan and his devils are expelled from a human victim (the possessed), > > are performed ON these very same XTIANS who demonise others. These > > Xtians, who blatantly libel others are thus in fact FULL of DEMONS > > themselves. We are informed of this by their very own publications, > > periodicals and regular calls by their own ministers to have demons > > a-z cast out of them. > > > > So whilst I have no proof whatsoever that S.M.A.R.T. is D.U.M.B., I'm > > sure i could come up with lots of hearsay, rumour, innuendo, loads of > > paranoia, much fear and lots of allegations on top allegations > > followed by more allegations to vilify ... well that should do it! > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Smart News > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:49 PM > > Subject: [CTRL] Possible connections between Masonry and Satanism > > > > -Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors > > > > http://members.aol.com/smartnews/Sample-Issue-01.htm > > > > Research Study > > > > > > "Understanding Ritual Abuse" was a study done of 33 ritual abuse > > survivors, from 13 different states. It was written by Caren Cook and > > is available through the Ritual Abuse Project, 431 Auburn Blvd., Suite > > 215, Sacramento, Ca. 95841. (This address no longer works.) > > > > On Page 19 of the study, survivors mentioned two primary organizations > > that their perpetrators belonged to, the Masons (27 %) and the Knights > > of Columbus (9 %). Other groups mentioned by survivors were the > > Rosicrucians, Eastern Star, the Shriners, etc. No question was asked > > in the study whether the organizations were directly involved in the > > abuse. > > > > In addition to the study there are two page information sheets > > available for distribution (copies can be made). The study covers the > > topics of healing, memory, MPD (now DID -Dissociative Identity > > Disorder), specific abuse, validation and telling about the abuse, as > > well as other topics. > > > > Research Article > > > > David Carrico is the author of a variety of books and pamphlets that > > allege many connections between Freemasonry and Satanism. The > > pamphlets include : "Christian Worker's Handbook, The Guide for > > Ministry to Masons " by David and Donna Carrico, "Freemasonry", the > > books include : "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection ~ ''The > > Golden Dawn - A Graphic Expose'' and ''The Pentagram, Freemasonry and > > the Goat". > > > > WARNING: This article may have triggering information in it, including > > graphic descriptions of rituals. Please take adequate precautions. All > > accusations are alleged. > > > > The following information is from the book, "The Egyptian Masonic > > Satanic Connection" > > > > " The book, "The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection" begins by > > showing how the mass murderer David Berkowitz 'Son of Sam' was > > allegedly a member of a Satanic cult strongly influenced by the > > writings of Eliphas Levi and Aleister Crowley, both high ranking > > Masons. > > > > Nimrod, son of Noah, helped build the Tower of Babel. He is considered > > by the Masons as great because he tried to establish a "New World > > Order" and he was called the "first Grand Master." > > > > The Mystery Religion of the Masons was originated in Ancient Babylon. > > This religion included occult symbols, ritual symbols, occult > > paraphernalia and candles. Many of the days held sacred by the Mystery > > Religions, according to Albert Pike (a 33rd degree Mason), are the > > same ones used by the Satanists for modern rituals (according to > > Satanic calendars). Some of the God's pictures taken from the Masonic > > History Book have Satanic or evil Biblical connections, including > > Ashtoreth, Dagon, Baal (children were sacrificed to Baal), and the > > Satanic Goat of Mendes. > > > > In the "Oath of Nimrod" (1st degree), the revealing of any Masonic > > secrets is the loss of the revealer's life. Several Masons discuss the > > connection between the mystery religions and the Masons. These > > religions included human sacrifice. > > > > Freemason J. S. M. Ward claims that Freemasonry is a descendent of the > > Adonis cult. This cult allegedly had a custom of tying people to trees > > and castrating them and then sometimes stabbing them. This book was > > distributed by the Masonic Supply Company. > > > > Aleister Crowley was a 33 degree Mason and is considered by some the > > father of Modern Satanism. He wanted to be called "The Beast 666". He > > was expelled from Italy due to accusations of his disciples > > sacrificing human babies in occult rituals. Other rituals included sex > > with and the murder of animals. Crowley was a very high ranking Mason. > > Crowley's followers today are members of O.T.O. - Ordo Templi > > Orientis. Crowley himself was recruited to O. T. O. by another Mason, > > Theodor Reuss. > > > > Crowley wrote about Egyptian Gods and was introduced to the > > organization "Golden Dawn" by MacGregor Mathers, who was believed to > > be influenced by ancient Egyptian customs. Mason Manly P. Hall wrote a > > book called "Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptians". In "Freemasonry > > and the Egyptian Gods" by Freemason J.S.M. Ward, the story of Osiris > > includes mutilation, murder and necrophilia. Candidates for Master > > Mason (3rd degree) play the part of Hiram Abiff, are in a way playing > > the role of Osiris the Egyptian God. Manly Hall, 33 degree Mason > > considers the Egyptian "Book of the Dead" to be "dominated by a spirit > > of transcendental magic" (pg. 57). The Egyptian Book of the Dead > > includes rituals of drinking blood, cannibalism, torture, killing > > animals, dismemberment and ritual fires. > > > > I want to thank David Carrico for his permission to use facts from his > > books in this newsletter. In his book, "The Pentagram, Freemasonry and > > the Goat", he alleges a connection between Masonic symbols and > > Satanism. Ritual Abuse survivors should be careful while reading these > > books. Many of the symbols may be triggering. > > > > > > > > > > <A HREF="">www.ctrl.orghttp://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & > > DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange > > list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. 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