-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/18/99 6:38:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Your logic is faulty, both of you. The reason there are disproportionate numbers of non-white people in jails and in prisons is because they are targeted, and in a large number of cases they are innocent. >> I can believe that minorities are targeted, there is lots of information that does not prove this, but hints very hard at it. I don't know about your statement that a large number are innocent, that would be very hard to prove. <<This argument that criminals do not deserve the basic rights as everyone else is disgusting.>> Many get more, much more than basic rights. Many get a chance to go to college. I had to pay to go to college and still owe a bundle of money for it, why should they get it for free when they broke the law and I did not. <<First many that are convicted are innocent just as many who are executed are in fact innocent. Secondly there is a thing called rehabilitation, and even though the system itself does nothing to rehabilitate people, many reform in spite of the mechanisms that attempt to prevent that. >> You sound like a bleeding heart, or you are an ex-con yourself. Rehabilitation is not an answer, punishment is. These people chose to break the law and should have to pay the price, but they don't ... the taxpayer does. Incarceration is very expensive and could be spent on better things rather than to confine those who choose not to fit into society. I don't feel sorry for criminals, think about the suffering they impose on others, their victims. They take property, beat people and even kill them many times without regret ... regret that they got caught, but not regret for their victims. Criminals also get a break ... more breaks than they deserve. There should be no paroles, there should not be so many unwarranted appeals. When they are sentenced to life ... they should die in prison, not get out in seven years. When they get the death penalty, it should be carried out one day later ... not letting them stay in prison 10-15 years till they can get a bleeding heart judge to commute their sentence to life in prison, or let then get away with murder altogether. What color or race they are should not matter, they have proven they cannot live in society in a peaceful manner and should be taken from the general populace to make life safer for the majority of citizens who control their behavior. As far as some laws being unjust ... yes some are, but there are ways to change them. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om