i'll check out these references. i'm not strongly endorsing macdonald; however having read some criticsm and counter-criticism, i'm not convinced he's anti-semitic. in fact, his academic work is devoted to ethnic particularism in general, and he has studied other diasporic cultures as well, which somewhat rules out him having a personal agenda or vendetta. however i do think he overgeneralizes, and one thing that i think is sorely missing is an awareness of how the attitudes of jews have been manipulated by elites to play a certain role. this is the crucial element. i believe that both christians and jews have been massively manipulated to serve agendas that are not in their interests. also i think that many elitists who are assumed to be "jews" or "christians" are in fact nothing of the sort. at the same time, it is not fair to prohibit open analysis and consideration of jewish cultural identity and its effect on politics and society, given the extraordinarily disproportionate representation that jews have in certain areas. i think that this goes beyond the simple question of zionism or anti-zionism. one cannot ascribe *everything* to individual experience or purely external factors; people are often influenced by their cultural identity and this needs to be acknowledged, in an objective way, without hate. so, even if macdonald falls into the anti-semitic camp, that doesn't mean that some of the issues and research he brings up are out of the question. that said, i think peter meyers offers a more balanced discussion.
also this recent article by sherman skolnick (who is jewish) points the way to a more nuanced view:
http://www.rense.com/general38/bordello6.htm
i'd also like you to back up your accusation against mark that he is a "jew hater". can you point out some proof of that? i am somewhat familiar with mark's writing and opinions, and i have never seen any evidence of that whatsoever.
-brian
On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Zuukie wrote:
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While looking over your links, I was struck by your use of Kevin MacDonald who in no way is a neutral source when it comes to the Jewish community. There are many historical reasons why Jews find themselves in the liberal camp without examining carefully as individuals their involvements, and I find myself in disagreement with that philosophy for many reasons. When I first heard attacks on Kevin MacDonald, I wondered what was going on, but after looking at his involvements and his writings, I have no doubt that he falls into the antisemitic camp. Any search on the net will provide much information on his work. He would fit very well into Veith's book, Modern Fascism, on fascism in the academic community. Particularly revealing was an article he wrote which parallels the views of Savitri Devi, a hardcore antisemite. A biography of her is titled Hitler's Priestess.
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